Re: [License-discuss] [License-review] Copyright on APIs

Hi Bruce, This is explicit law if you read Recitals 10 and 15 of Directive 2009/24/EC ) At the contrary of "articles", recitals does not need to be transposed in national law, as requested in the directive process. H

Re: [License-discuss] [License-review] Copyright on APIs

Pamela Chestek dixit: >But it also is equally good for open source software because the No, it would be really bad for OSS in general, because… >copyleft effect would have greater reach … that would imbalance the scales away from copycentre/Ⓕ copyfree and towards copyleft, which per se is the m

Re: [License-discuss] [License-review] Copyright on APIs

Improved enforcement of Open Source licenses is no benefit if it locks us out of participation in the rest of the world and makes Open Source an island. Consider that APIs also include interfaces made available to web browsers, etc. > How is it different from the copyleft in the GPL? GPL does not

Re: [License-discuss] [License-review] Copyright on APIs

On 6/28/19 11:40 PM, Bruce Perens via License-discuss wrote: > The successful application of copyright to APIs would be a disaster > for Open Source software, in that we would no longer be able to create > Open versions of existing APIs or languages. But it also is equally good for open source soft

Re: [License-discuss] [License-review] Copyright on APIs

On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 1:59 PM Patrice-Emmanuel Schmitz via License-discuss wrote: > this invalidates also the theory of strong copyleft, in my opinion. > I think we need another phrase than "strong copyleft". It's being used to represent copyleft with the addition of various things that copyle

Re: [License-discuss] [License-review] Copyright on APIs

Is this a doctrine, or explicit law? On Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 13:59 Patrice-Emmanuel Schmitz via License-discuss < license-discuss@lists.opensource.org> wrote: > As far the European law could be applicable, I just confirm that, for the > purpose of interoperability between several components and whe

Re: [License-discuss] [License-review] Copyright on APIs

As far the European law could be applicable, I just confirm that, for the purpose of interoperability between several components and when you are the legitimate owner or the legitimate licensee of these components, there is a copyright exception regarding their APIs. APIs escape to copyright , mean

Re: [License-discuss] [License-review] Copyright on APIs

This is connected with why I gave up on Open Hardware licenses. Pretty much every one of them attempts to assert copyright rights upon things that can not reliably be copyrighted under current US law. In this case to assert it over the production of hardware devices implementing a schematic design

Re: [License-discuss] [License-review] Copyright on APIs

I do not think the question of whether API copyright exists is that relevant for review. Clearly, it is not in the interest of the open source community for such a right to exist, as Bruce points out. But where such a right does exist it ought to be fine for an open source license to exercise that

Re: [License-discuss] [License-review] Copyright on APIs

On 6/28/19 11:40 PM, Bruce Perens via License-discuss wrote: > > /Until now, the principle of copyleft has only been applied to > literal code, not APIs. The license submitter’s proposal is for a > copyleft effect that would apply to new implementations of the API > even when the u