Re: [License-discuss] Query on "delayed open source" licensing

2023-10-27 Thread Russell Nelson
Producing open source software isn't a bad thing, even if you don't get it immediately. OSI's position toward proprietary software has always been that the proprietary nature has a cost in terms of outside contributions to your software. I mean, I never knew that the Pep Boys were using my Toke

Re: [License-discuss] Query on "delayed open source" licensing

2023-10-27 Thread Christopher Sean Morrison via License-discuss
> On Oct 25, 2023, at 9:43 PM, Seth David Schoen wrote: > > Of course, license instruments that implement this strategy are not > themselves open source licenses. But we thought it was likely that > subscribers of this list would be familiar with examples of this > practice and might be able t

Re: [License-discuss] Query on "delayed open source" licensing

2023-10-27 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
> On 10/27/23 11:06, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: > I'm sad (but also sadly not surprised) to see that OSI is not willing to > outright criticize this model, since it is primarily a proprietary software > model. Josh Berkus wrote: > If researchers start out with a predefined conclusion, you get shoddy

Re: [License-discuss] Query on "delayed open source" licensing

2023-10-27 Thread Josh Berkus
On 10/27/23 11:06, Bradley M. Kuhn wrote: I'm sad (but also sadly not surprised) to see that OSI is not willing to outright criticize this model, since it is primarily a proprietary software model. If researchers start out with a predefined conclusion, you get shoddy research. A research pr

Re: [License-discuss] Query on "delayed open source" licensing

2023-10-27 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
FWIW, I can confirm Larry Rosen's suggestion that indeed L. Peter Deutsch and Aladdin Ghostscript likely invented the manipulative marketing approach of pre-announcing that proprietary software might someday be FOSS and/or making semi-binding public statements or licensing terms that backup that ma