library interfaces and pseudo-random number generators

2006-02-20 Thread Vincent Lefevre
Hi, I'd like to know if the algorithm used for a pseudo-random number generator provided by a library is part of the library interface. A PRNG can be used so that the results are reproducible (using the same seed). From this point of view, I'd say that a new library version which gives different r

FYI: spamcop listing

2006-02-20 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Spamcop has listed the gnu.org mailing list server. Several members of at least one of the Libtool lists have had their subscription disabled because their mail servers reject based on spamcop alone. This sucks majorly, as it prevents communication with people. Some of the users that got their s

Re: library interfaces and pseudo-random number generators

2006-02-20 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Hi Vincent, * Vincent Lefevre wrote on Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 09:45:54AM CET: > > I'd like to know if the algorithm used for a pseudo-random number > generator provided by a library is part of the library interface. > A PRNG can be used so that the results are reproducible (using the > same seed).

Re: library interfaces and pseudo-random number generators

2006-02-20 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2006-02-20 10:10:02 +0100, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > Good question. I'd say that depends on documentation: if the interface > was documented to either provide a certain PRNG, or weaker, if it was > documented to provide deterministic series, then that would likely > change the library interface.

Re: libtool (alpha)

2006-02-20 Thread Julien Lecomte
On 19/02/2006 20:08, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: Hi Julien, Ralf Wildenhues gmx.de> writes: * Julien Lecomte wrote on Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 04:51:54AM CET: I've installed the libtool alpha cvs build under MinGW. Configuration and install was made under mSys (after replacing config.{guess,sub}):

Re: libtool (alpha)

2006-02-20 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Hi Julien, * Julien Lecomte wrote on Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 04:45:47PM CET: > On 19/02/2006 20:08, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > >>* Julien Lecomte wrote on Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 04:51:54AM CET: > >>> > >>>Of note: I configured and installed under mSys because under MinGW it > >>>fails (undefined refere

Re: Setting environment variable in libtool wrapper?

2006-02-20 Thread Geoffrey Hutchison
Hi Ralf, Would it also load modules without specifying a directory? IOW: would adjusting the uninstalled program's DT_RPATH (or equivalent) or LD_LIBRARY_PATH (or equivalent) be sufficient, too? Currently, no. But that's an easy change. With those two new flags, it would be possible to seam

Re: Setting environment variable in libtool wrapper?

2006-02-20 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Hi Geoffrey, * Geoffrey Hutchison wrote on Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 05:19:42PM CET: > > >Would it also load modules without specifying a directory? IOW: would > >adjusting the uninstalled program's DT_RPATH (or equivalent) or > >LD_LIBRARY_PATH (or equivalent) be sufficient, too? > > Currently, no.