Re: Version numbering

2003-09-30 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 17:58, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > After the next cron web update, please read: > > http://www.gnu.org/software/libtool/contribute.html > > and give me your feedback... > Makes sense to me, seems to cover everything well enough to avoid any confusion about what kind of re

Re: Version numbering

2003-09-30 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
gives some feeling of sense to accustomed to the odd/even version numbering scheme of Linux. Besides the Linux kernel, what *else* uses that odd/even numbering scheme? I have seen a couple, but I can't remember any now. GLib, GTK+, Gimp and GNOME (as well as many to most GNOME apps) spring immedi

Re: Version numbering

2003-09-30 Thread Earnie Boyd
Scott James Remnant wrote: Not sure whether it's a concern, but generally most packaging systems (RPM springs to mind) do not allow a '-' in the package's upstream version. It's only a concern to the RPM users and maintainers. If it's a CVS snapshot for the next version increment just timestamp th

Re: Version numbering

2003-09-30 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
ple cannot mis-sort versions with letters with others. It could also gives some feeling of sense to accustomed to the odd/even version numbering scheme of Linux. I like this idea! But it doesn't solve all my issues... The criterion I want to satisfy are: 1: alpha releases, point releas

Re: Version numbering

2003-09-30 Thread Dalibor Topic
sense to accustomed to the odd/even version numbering scheme of Linux. Besides the Linux kernel, what *else* uses that odd/even numbering scheme? I have seen a couple, but I can't remember any now. GLib, GTK+, Gimp and GNOME (as well as many to most GNOME apps) spring immediately to mind. Kaffe

Re: Version numbering

2003-09-30 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 10:15, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > Alexandre Duret-Lutz wrote: > > I didn't understand your proposal, but I hope you are not > > planning to make 2.2 < 2.3a < 2.3. That would be counter > > intuitive. IMHO any numbering scheme ought to work with `ls -v'. > > Actually, that is

Re: Version numbering

2003-09-30 Thread Scott James Remnant
e feeling of sense to accustomed to the odd/even version > > numbering scheme of Linux. > > Besides the Linux kernel, what *else* uses that odd/even numbering > scheme? I have seen a couple, but I can't remember any now. > GLib, GTK+, Gimp and GNOME (as well as many to most GN

Re: Version numbering

2003-09-30 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Gary V. Vaughan wrote: Your point about `ls -v' is a good one though. I'll put an extra `-' before the letter: ] touch libtool-1.5.tar.gz libtool-1.6a.tar.gz libtool-1.6.tar.gz ] \ls -1 -v libtool-1.5.tar.gz libtool-1.6.tar.gz libtool-1.6a.tar.gz ] mv libtool-1.6a.tar.gz

Re: Version numbering

2003-09-30 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Alexandre Duret-Lutz wrote: "Gary" == Gary V Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] Gary> And that's why people find our version scheme confusing. I'm not sure Gary> how we ended up working in this way, I think we copied it from Gary> Automake? Tsk tsk tsk. Libtool used that scheme fi

RE: Version numbering

2003-09-30 Thread Howard Chu
cerned, I claim that > > it's easier to do if it works with `ls -v'. > > Zack Weinberg seems to have spent a lot of thought on version > numbering: > > http://www.panix.com/~zackw/exbib/2002/June/20 > > > In the past, people have also argued that using character

Re: Version numbering

2003-09-30 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
tools. After all the > real releases are easy to sort since they use only digit. > As far as explaining the new scheme is concerned, I claim that > it's easier to do if it works with `ls -v'. Zack Weinberg seems to have spent a lot of thought on version numbering: http://www.pa

Re: Version numbering

2003-09-30 Thread Alexandre Duret-Lutz
annot mis-sort versions with letters with others. It could also gives some feeling of sense to accustomed to the odd/even version numbering scheme of Linux. -- Alexandre Duret-Lutz ___ Libtool mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/libtool

Re: Version numbering

2003-09-29 Thread Paul Jarc
Daniel Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Several GNU projects (including GCC) do leave off .0's for anything past the > minor number, so it seems ls -v can't be the final authority :/ It does not follow that this numbering scheme is a good one. I would argue that it isn't. The gcc maintainers se

Re: Version numbering

2003-09-29 Thread Daniel Reed
On 2003-09-29T22:50+0200, Alexandre Duret-Lutz wrote: ) planning to make 2.2 < 2.3a < 2.3. That would be counter ) intuitive. IMHO any numbering scheme ought to work with `ls -v'. ls ls -v ls -rt naim-0.11.5.1.tar.gz naim-0.11.5.1.tar.gz

Re: Version numbering

2003-09-29 Thread Alexandre Duret-Lutz
>>> "Gary" == Gary V Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] Gary> And that's why people find our version scheme confusing. I'm not sure Gary> how we ended up working in this way, I think we copied it from Gary> Automake? Tsk tsk tsk. Libtool used that scheme first. Automake copied it

Re: Version numbering

2003-09-29 Thread Gary V . Vaughan
On Monday, September 29, 2003, at 04:51 pm, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: I think when we branch for a release (say the upcoming 1.6), version numbers in the branch should continue to be "1.6.?", but that the trunk should bump its minor number to make it cl

Re: Version numbering

2003-09-29 Thread Peter O'Gorman
Gary V. Vaughan wrote: I think when we branch for a release (say the upcoming 1.6), version numbers in the branch should continue to be "1.6.?", but that the trunk should bump its minor number to make it clear the trunk is very different to the stable branch: "1.7?". We would of course continu

Re: Version numbering

2003-09-29 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Gary V. Vaughan wrote: > I think when we branch for a release (say the upcoming 1.6), version numbers > in the branch should continue to be "1.6.?", but that the trunk > should bump its minor number to make it clear the trunk is very different to > the stable branch: "1.7?".

Version numbering

2003-09-29 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
I am considering changing the version numbering scheme we use for alpha releases of libtool, which are currently a source of much confusion. The release rules in Makefile.am, and the release procedure documented in README-alpha are all that will need updating. I think when we branch for a

Re: Version numbering change on IRIX

2002-11-18 Thread Rainer Orth
Robert, > IMHO it isn't worth the bother to allow both, I'll just revert patch. > Everyone agree? certainly :-) If the difference in shlib version numbering between Solaris/Linux and IRIX is really a FAQ that causes user confusion, perhaps this should be documented?

RE: Version numbering change on IRIX

2002-11-18 Thread Boehne, Robert
Title: RE: Version numbering change on IRIX Steve, IMHO it isn't worth the bother to allow both, I'll just revert patch. Everyone agree? Robert -Original Message- From: Steve M. Robbins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 8:21 PM To: Boehne, Robe

Re: Version numbering change on IRIX

2002-11-15 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 05:34:33PM +0100, Rainer Orth wrote: > Robert, > > > This change was a long time coming, so many people have complained > > about having libx.so.1 under Solars/Linux and having libx.so.2 under IRIX. > > Adding 1 to the version isn't necessary, I've looked everywhere I could

RE: Version numbering change on IRIX

2002-11-15 Thread Rainer Orth
Robert, > This change was a long time coming, so many people have complained > about having libx.so.1 under Solars/Linux and having libx.so.2 under IRIX. > Adding 1 to the version isn't necessary, I've looked everywhere I could > think of to find out why this was done in the first place, but found

RE: Version numbering change on IRIX

2002-11-15 Thread Boehne, Robert
Title: RE: Version numbering change on IRIX Rainer, This change was a long time coming, so many people have complained about having libx.so.1 under Solars/Linux and having libx.so.2 under IRIX. Adding 1 to the version isn't necessary, I've looked everywhere I could think of to fi

Version numbering change on IRIX

2002-11-15 Thread Rainer Orth
Robert, I just noticed this change 2002-10-23 Robert Boehne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ltmain.in: Do not add 1 to the version under IRIX, it is not necessary. in CVS libtool. I couldn't find any rationale for it in the archives, and fear that it might be a dangerous incompatible cha