Re: [shell functions, was RE: solving of name conflicts in included. a]

2002-11-07 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Charles Wilson wrote: > Since autoconf (>= 2.56) will only work on systems whose shells support > shell functions, and libtool requires autoconf, then libtool will only > work on those same systems. Which means shell functions are available > and we *can* use them. Whether we

Re: [shell functions, was RE: solving of name conflicts in included . a]

2002-11-07 Thread Charles Wilson
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: "Shall libtool-1.5 require autoconf-2.56?" I don't see that introducing shell functions into libtool has any bearing on the version of autoconf that libtool requires. The argument you pose is political rather than technical. Yes. The decision itself is a political

Re: [shell functions, was RE: solving of name conflicts in included. a]

2002-11-07 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Charles Wilson wrote: > When will libtool-1.5 be released? Before or after ac-2.56? (given > that ac-2.55 will be released next week). > > Assuming that the autoconf people have not repudiated their plan to > integrate shell functions starting in 2.56, then the decision to us

Re: [shell functions, was RE: solving of name conflicts in included . a]

2002-11-07 Thread Charles Wilson
On the other hand, autoconf's most recent release sez (as ADL pointed out before I finished composing this message): ** Plans for 2.56 ... - shell functions Shell functions will gradually be introduced, probably starting with Autotest. If yo

Re: [shell functions, was RE: solving of name conflicts in included. a]

2002-11-07 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
My experience with developing software is that unless software has been tested, it is unlikely to actually work. While we may pretend that libtool supports 20 year old systems, the reality is that no one is testing to verify that libtool can actually execute on these systems. Exceedingly few of t

Re: [shell functions, was RE: solving of name conflicts in included .a]

2002-11-07 Thread Bruce Korb
"Boehne, Robert" wrote: > >Part 1.1Type: Plain Text (text/plain) > Jan, > > That actually brings up a big issue. I *assumed* that the win32 patches > using shell functions that were checked in would only have shell functions > when running under windows. I later saw this was not the case.

Re: [shell functions, was RE: solving of name conflicts in included . a]

2002-11-07 Thread Charles Wilson
Boehne, Robert wrote: and any WIN32 specific code can be only included when WIN32 is detected at run time (via ". some_here_document_containing_win32_shellfuncs") Until all the Autotool maintainers decide to abandon support for non-shell function bourne shells we need to support them as well.