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applicability in the grand picture of all
systems and all ways of linking libraries, but it applies to pretty much
every Linux distribution (and probably any other distribution of any kind
of UNIX that uses shared libraries and package dependencies). So by
quantity of Libtool installs and invocations
ritten to
solve, and is why it does so many things that on Linux are weird and
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or. Changing it
would break things, rather horribly.
(This is somewhat afield of the original issue, though, which was a change
from RPATH to RUNPATH, and does sound rather surprising.)
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hlibdeps
doesn't care. So maybe this is a problem in that tool where it should be
suppressing that error for your package as well?
You can see the build logs at:
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In other words, this is probably an upstream Makefile issue rather than a
problem with either libtool or dpkg-shlibdeps.
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t does this when it thinks the directory isn't listed in the system
library search path, though.
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ould not be
> a problem!?
-Wl says to pass the flag verbatim to the linker. It's common to use the
system linker even with non-system compilers.
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hat is causing distributions to drop the *.la files and they're
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well-supported in Autoconf. Although that doesn't address your immediate
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this dates from 2005, and
breaking C++ libraries that need threading seems like a bad outcome. Does
this problem still exist? Can this workaround just be dropped?
Note that the GCC maintainters closed the bug requesting -pthread still
add -lpthread even under -nostdlib as invalid.
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Bob Friesenhahn writes:
> On Sat, 7 Jan 2012, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> Do you mean for detecting other libraries? Only for libraries without
>> pkg-config support.
> For detecting library features such as the availabilty of functions.
Yes, it deals with that fine. Not tha
Bob Friesenhahn writes:
> On Sat, 7 Jan 2012, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> pkg-config is an excellent example of an alternative way of handling
>> this that does not have this problem, and it includes Autoconf support.
> What do you mean by "it includes Autoconf support
of the library to declare
the necessary behavior for both cases: working transitive dependency
resolution, and situations where this cannot be relied upon. The build
system then chooses based on the situation.
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Peter Rosin writes:
> Russ Allbery skrev 2012-01-07 03:13:
>> Of which there are very few still in existence in terms of widespread
>> use, since most systems now use ELF or (like Mac OS X) some other
>> object format that doesn't require this. Solaris is definit
Russ Allbery writes:
> I don't believe this is correct. GNU/Linux does not add implicit
> dependencies at link time; it only links with the libraries that you
> explicitly list. ELF doesn't require that all symbols be resolved during
> the link, only the symbols in
of widespread use,
since most systems now use ELF or (like Mac OS X) some other object format
that doesn't require this. Solaris is definitely not one of them. I
believe you may still need this on such platforms as AIX or HP-UX that use
a much different object format, but I'
ional
(my fault originally), and I suspect that something about the structure of
its configure.ac is causing $delay_single_quote_subst to not be set to
anything, leading sed to be invoked with the empty string as a command.
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conflicts when multiple versions of a shared library are loaded at the
same time, not to do more sophisticated things like provide multiple
versions of a function bound to different symbol versions.
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Ralf Wildenhues writes:
> * Russ Allbery wrote on Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:00:04PM CEST:
>> I would dearly, dearly love for libtool to pick up a --version-script
>> option that would pass in the full version script on platforms with
>> linkers that understand it, turn it into
stand it, turn it into a symbol export list on platforms
that only support that, and suppress it entirely if the linker doesn't
have any relevant capabilities. That would save me a ton of maintenance
burden on some of my packages, and it would then be easy to add a feature
like the above as
ne, given that it
installs the library symlinks itself properly in the first place.
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Ralf Wildenhues writes:
> * Russ Allbery wrote on Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 07:35:53AM CEST:
>> dlopened modules are something of a special case; it's one of the
>> places where Debian may not remove *.la files depending on the specific
>> situation.
> I have a question
are something of a special case; it's one of the places
where Debian may not remove *.la files depending on the specific
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somelib, one for each of the alternative dependency libraries. (See, for
instance, how cURL is handled in Debian.)
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Bob Friesenhahn writes:
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2009, Russ Allbery wrote:
>>> Relying on the OS's implicit dependency features seems to be an
>>> approach which is fraught with peril.
>> Relying on the dynamic linker to resolve implicit dependencies is the
>>
size of
Debian. Otherwise, your shared library dependencies get so entangled that
it's extremely difficult to correctly handle transitions.
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now about the dependency
> on "C"?
Is (B) also linked with libtool? If so, is the *.la file installed?
That's where libtool gets the metadata required to know when to link to
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th -pthread where appropriate is the only additional bit
required in another 4% or more of the cases.
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Roumen Petrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Russ Allbery wrote:
>> libreadline is linked against libncurses on Debian.
> Which version ?
readline 5.2-3, ncurses 5.7-2.
> This is an 7(5?) years old linux bug.
I'm very dubious of that assertion. Applications whi
ve proper transitive dependency support unless a
static link was requested. (There would need to be a flag to override
this for the unusual cases where this is required; there are some edge
cases where it's needed, usually involving things like weak symbols or
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Roumen Petrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Russ Allbery wrote:
>> When you create a libtool library, libtool records every library
>> against which that library was linked into the *.la file. If you then
>> link another shared library against that shared library usin
Roumen Petrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Russ Allbery wrote:
>> Debian's experience to date is that --as-needed is buggy and breaks a
>> lot of software, and overall is not a particularly stable solution.
>> Removing *.la files so that the unneeded shared l
Ralf Wildenhues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello Russ,
> * Russ Allbery wrote on Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 01:20:28AM CET:
>> The most frequent problem caused by *.la files is that they add a pile
>> of unnecessary dependencies to shared libraries, which further
>>
nsitive dependency closures when loading shared libraries.)
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ssible at link time. This will (hopefully) cause
the module to be built without an external reference to that symbol, so
then there's nothing to go wrong at runtime.
Note that this will change other linker behavior. Read the GNU ld
documentation for more details on exactly what the option does.
cific to one executable or library, and hence is much more
targetted and doesn't have the same far-reaching effect.
LD_LIBRARY_PATH can be used safely and many large installations do use it
safely, but it's dangerous and tricky.
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dd -lz.
Note that the linker that needs to figure this out is actually the dynamic
linker as such dependencies should be resolved at run-time, *not* at link
time. A linker that does such resolution at link time actually re-adds
most of the problems that libtool currently causes.
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the library, though, or very recent GNU ld with options that don't work
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he right link lines to avoid this. That being said,
the addition of extra dependencies is generally only a problem if you're
building OS packages and have to be careful about adding too many
dependencies. If you're just building software for local use, it doesn't
really matter.
;: Permission denied
Well, that makes it look like abs_top_builddir isn't actually getting
set. I'm not sure exactly what would cause that.
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> I have
> noinst_bin_PROGRAMS = gdbmi_driver
> noinst_bindir = $(top_builddir)/progs
Try using $(abs_top_builddir) instead. I've always had bad luck with
relative paths and anything that involves libtool.
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system and a broken build system.
There are ten-year-old binaries that expect a particular SONAME for the X
libraries and can't simply be rebuilt. It's very, very important that
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installed static libraries if the operating system happens to come with
some dynamic library by the same name.
What was the reason for this change, or was it accidental?
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> How long till the libtool source is posted back on the site?
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This I'm not too worried about. I generally have Automake around. Just
as long as I don't have to use Automake for the package itself when I use
libtool, I think this is fine.
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> I have a copy of libtool-1.5.tar.gz which was retrieved on April 15.
> The MD5 checksum is also "0e1844f25e2ad74c3715b5776d017545".
I have a copy dated April 14 with the same MD5 checksum.
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ool can readily be used anymore without Autoconf and
> Automake being involved.
I can't comment on using it without Autoconf, but INN uses libtool and
doesn't use Automake. That's not particularly difficult to do, at least
for the simple cases.
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to go on
is how Autoconf 2.13 works and how Autoconf 2.54 works.
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7;s a lot more pleasant and a lot clearer to
write configure scripts using the new language definition than the old one
because it's much clearer what to do at any given point to accomplish what
you want to accomplish (although the annoying cache directory and the
speed issues are a bi
e is
therefore intended to minimize the size of statically linked binaries by
giving the linker maximum freedom to drop unused code.
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> On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 12:46:33AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> That patch fixed the hang. The test results still aren't pretty.
> Apply the fix I posted to libtool-patches. That should bring it down to
> 6 failures.
I assume t
... (cached) no
FAIL: cdemo-make.test
FAIL: demo-make.test
FAIL: depdemo-make.test
FAIL: mdemo-make.test
FAIL: mdemo-exec.test
FAIL: mdemo-inst.test
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FAIL: demo-exec.test
FAIL: demo-make.test
FAIL: demo-exec.test
FAIL: demo-make.test
FAIL: demo-exec.test
FAIL: demo-inst.test
FAIL: mdemo-make.test
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> On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 09:10:20AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> I was unable to even get the test suite to complete on this platform;
>> every time the mdemo tests ran, the program it was running went runaway
>> and had to be
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> On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 09:10:20AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> I was unable to even get the test suite to complete on this platform;
>> every time the mdemo tests ran, the program it was running went runaway
>> and had to be
btool 1.3e (1.910 2001/04/23 00:34:53)
checking host system type... hppa2.0n-hp-hpux11.00
checking build system type... hppa2.0n-hp-hpux11.00
Using vendor ld and gcc 2.95.3.
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PASS: build-relink2.test
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creating helldl
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checking if the linker (/usr/ccs/bin/ld) is GNU ld... no
gcc 2.95.3 in use on both. On both systems:
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12 of 83 tests failed
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with the same list of failing tests as Solaris 8.
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FAIL: demo-unst.test
FAIL: depdemo-unst.test
FAIL: mdemo-unst.test
FAIL: dryrun.test
FAIL: demo-unst.test
FAIL: depdemo-unst.test
FAIL: demo-unst.test
FAIL: depdemo-unst.test
FAIL: mdemo-unst.test
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15 of 69 tests failed
=
I don't have the time to do specific debugging, but if you want any of
these tests rerun specifically, I can do that and send the output.
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Whoops, sorry, I should add that this was with:
Configuring libtool 1.3e (1.910 2001/04/23 00:34:53)
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> gcc 2.95.3, SGI native ld.
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as libtool expected
.libs was hardcoded in `hc-minusL', which fooled libtool
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iscussion in other lists, but I seem
to recall that AIX's native tools can then select static or shared linking
by choosing which objects in the .a they pull in.
Some vague memory also tells me that this is how shared library versioning
is done (with differently named shar
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