Re: removal of .la files from Debian and a possible solution to the libtool shared libs problem

2009-08-26 Thread Anssi Hannula
Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > * Anssi Hannula wrote on Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:05:22PM CEST: >> Ralf Wildenhues wrote: >>> Do dlopen'ed modules that have indirect >>> dependencies outside of default-searched library paths get loaded >>> correctly now, with DT_RPATH entries only pointing to direct deplib

Dynamic linker relinking guarantee on compatible interface-number changes

2009-08-26 Thread Jan Engelhardt
Hi, A paragraph in libtool's info manual section 7.2 ("Libtool's versioning system") got me thinking: The dynamic linker is guaranteed that if a library supports _every_ interface number between FIRST-INTERFACE and LAST-INTERFACE, then the program can be relinked against

Re: removal of .la files from Debian and a possible solution to the libtool shared libs problem

2009-08-26 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 16:30:06 Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > * Russ Allbery wrote on Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 07:35:53AM CEST: > > dlopened modules are something of a special case; it's one of the places > > where Debian may not remove *.la files depending on the specific > > situation. > > I have a q

Re: removal of .la files from Debian and a possible solution to the libtool shared libs problem

2009-08-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Ralf Wildenhues writes: > * Russ Allbery wrote on Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 07:35:53AM CEST: >> dlopened modules are something of a special case; it's one of the >> places where Debian may not remove *.la files depending on the specific >> situation. > I have a question here, since it seems some of t

Re: removal of .la files from Debian and a possible solution to the libtool shared libs problem

2009-08-26 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Russ Allbery wrote on Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 07:35:53AM CEST: > > dlopened modules are something of a special case; it's one of the places > where Debian may not remove *.la files depending on the specific > situation. I have a question here, since it seems some of the involved people are reading

Re: removal of .la files from Debian and a possible solution to the libtool shared libs problem

2009-08-26 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
* Anssi Hannula wrote on Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 12:05:22PM CEST: > Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > > * Bob Friesenhahn wrote on Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 05:01:18AM CEST: > >> Is someone here willing to contribute a portable m4 macro which > >> tests the compiler (and/or linker) to prove beyond a shadow of a > >

Re: removal of .la files from Debian and a possible solution to the libtool shared libs problem

2009-08-26 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: Linux does seem to have good dynamic linker support and its a shame libtool effectively drags it down to a lower common denominator of other platforms with worse support. Actually, historically that was probably done on purpose, to remind developers

Re: removal of .la files from Debian and a possible solution to the libtool shared libs problem

2009-08-26 Thread Anssi Hannula
Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, 2009-08-25 at 18:34 +0300, Anssi Hannula wrote: > >> You mean to subscribe on the debian development list? I'd think this >> list would be the more appropriate place for discussing a proper >> upstream solution. > > There is no need to subscribe, just ask people to CC y

Re: removal of .la files from Debian and a possible solution to the libtool shared libs problem

2009-08-26 Thread Anssi Hannula
Ralf Wildenhues wrote: > * Bob Friesenhahn wrote on Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 05:01:18AM CEST: >> Is someone here willing to contribute a portable m4 macro which >> tests the compiler (and/or linker) to prove beyond a shadow of a >> doubt that it adequately supports the implicit linkage required? The >>