Re: libtool 1.4.2 on Darwin

2002-10-08 Thread Christoph Egger
> > > Bruce Korb wrote: > > Christoph Egger wrote: > > > > > >>Ok, here we come: I just did 2) > >>The fix is replacing this line > >> > >>archive_cmds='$nonopt $(test "x$module" = xyes && echo -bundle || > >>echo -dynamiclib) $allow_undefined_flag -o $lib $libobjs > >>$deplibs$linker_flags -i

Re: libtool 1.4.2 on Darwin

2002-10-08 Thread Guido Draheim
Bruce Korb wrote: > Christoph Egger wrote: > > >>Ok, here we come: I just did 2) >>The fix is replacing this line >> >>archive_cmds='$nonopt $(test "x$module" = xyes && echo -bundle || >>echo -dynamiclib) $allow_undefined_flag -o $lib $libobjs >>$deplibs$linker_flags -install_name $rpath/$sona

Re: libtool 1.4.2 on Darwin

2002-10-08 Thread Christoph Egger
> While we're on the subject of darwin and libtool, we've been needing to > make changes to libtool to make KDE compile on darwin that haven't been > discussed in this thread. > > Darwin's GCC has a number of very weird states it can get into during > the linking stage because of it's crappy ld (

Re: libtool 1.4.2 on Darwin

2002-10-08 Thread Benjamin Reed
While we're on the subject of darwin and libtool, we've been needing to make changes to libtool to make KDE compile on darwin that haven't been discussed in this thread. Darwin's GCC has a number of very weird states it can get into during the linking stage because of it's crappy ld (grin), and I

Re: libtool 1.4.2 on Darwin

2002-10-08 Thread Christoph Egger
> In regard to: Re: libtool 1.4.2 on Darwin, Christoph Egger said (at > 11:26pm...: > > >Ok, here we come: I just did 2) > >The fix is replacing this line > > > >archive_cmds='$nonopt $(test "x$module" = xyes && echo -bundle || > >echo -dynamiclib) $allow_undefined_flag -o $lib $libobjs > >$depli

Re: libtool 1.4.2 on Darwin

2002-10-08 Thread Christoph Egger
> Christoph Egger wrote: > > > Ok, here we come: I just did 2) > > The fix is replacing this line > > > > archive_cmds='$nonopt $(test "x$module" = xyes && echo -bundle || > > echo -dynamiclib) $allow_undefined_flag -o $lib $libobjs > > $deplibs$linker_flags -install_name $rpath/$soname $verstri

Re: libtool 1.4.2 on Darwin

2002-10-08 Thread Tim Mooney
In regard to: Re: libtool 1.4.2 on Darwin, Christoph Egger said (at 11:26pm...: >Ok, here we come: I just did 2) >The fix is replacing this line > >archive_cmds='$nonopt $(test "x$module" = xyes && echo -bundle || >echo -dynamiclib) $allow_undefined_flag -o $lib $libobjs >$deplibs$linker_flags -i

Re: libtool 1.4.2 on Darwin

2002-10-08 Thread Bruce Korb
Christoph Egger wrote: > Ok, here we come: I just did 2) > The fix is replacing this line > > archive_cmds='$nonopt $(test "x$module" = xyes && echo -bundle || > echo -dynamiclib) $allow_undefined_flag -o $lib $libobjs > $deplibs$linker_flags -install_name $rpath/$soname $verstring' > > by this

Re: libtool 1.4.2 on Darwin

2002-10-08 Thread Christoph Egger
> Christoph Egger wrote: > > > > All what I want are three things: > > > > 1) That my above fix becomes part of one of the next libtool releases > > 2) That libtool calls gcc with the right params, so that gcc doesn't > break > > the compiling process with 'gcc: -install_name only allowed with >

RE: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Howard Chu wrote: > > I'd like to see 1.4.3. Who else is onboard? What is required to make a > > release happen? > > I'd like to see this as well. Incremental changes tend to be easier to > swallow. I also found the CVS libtool was not a simple drop-in replacement > for 1.4.2.

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Albert Chin
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 03:38:17PM -0500, Robert Boehne wrote: > So a 1.4.3 version is desired, that's established. > The million-dollar question is: >Does current branch-1-4 Libtool do the trick? > > If so, then a roll out could be done within the week. I've got some patches I'd like to rol

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Robert Boehne
Ok, So a 1.4.3 version is desired, that's established. The million-dollar question is: Does current branch-1-4 Libtool do the trick? If so, then a roll out could be done within the week. Robert -- Robert Boehne Software Engineer Ricardo Software Chicago Technical Center TEL:

RE: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Howard Chu
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Albert Chin > On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 11:17:55AM -0500, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > > Wouldn't it be better to get libtool 1.5 out the door? The > resources > > required to achieve a releasable product are

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Sascha Schumann
[Cc line trimmed] > me too! :) I think we have heard all arguments by now. There is no need to reiterate them. Whatever the outcome of this thread might be -- I hope those who work on libtool will continue to provide a toolkit which is suitable for all of us -- develop

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Albert Chin
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 11:17:55AM -0500, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > Wouldn't it be better to get libtool 1.5 out the door? The resources > required to achieve a releasable product are similar and CVS libtool > already contains most of the fixes that would go into a 1.4.3. I'd like to see 1.4.3. W

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello! > People who stick to the 2.13 guns can stick to the libtool > 1.3.3/whatever guns. I see no reason why *new* code (third-party > packages) should require a *new* libtool but an *old* autoconf. And the > argument that "2.13 works" doesn't fly by me: "so does 1.4.2" (or > whatever the las

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Sascha Schumann
> I developed/maintain the configure script for ImageMagick. While the > total lines in the generated configure script is meaningless, it is > less than 1/2 of what you report for PHP, and PHP's configure script > is 4-8X larger than typical configure scripts for other large packages > (e.g. 4X l

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Bernd Jendrissek
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 11:36:40AM -0500, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On 8 Oct 2002, Akim Demaille wrote: > > There is one big question which must be answered first: will it have > > to be Autoconf 2.13 compatible? > > > > I *strongly* suggest that it must not. It should AC_PREREQ 2.54 > > immediate

Re: Libtool 1.4.3 - unsolvable issue

2002-10-08 Thread Allan Clark (rply to list pls)
Libtool-ers; I think this issue simply becomes mired by stacking up on either side of a "for/against" line. Previously, it was mentioned that certain troublesome source trees be used as litmus tests for automake or autoconf changes; the same may hold true now for libtool. Brief summary: if you

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Pavel Roskin
Hello, Russ! I'm the one who suggested the version 2.50 when it was discussed whether the next version should be 2.14, 2.15 or 3.0. The reason was because there was some incompatibility, but not significant to justify the major number change. It is possible to write configure.in compatible with

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Thomas E. Dickey wrote: > > > I agree. I can't imagine why anyone would want to use an antique > > > version of Autoconf which dates from 1996. > > > > Because it works? In any case, it's the respective maintainer's choice. > > > > Making autoconf incompatible with previous

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Thomas E. Dickey
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On 8 Oct 2002, Akim Demaille wrote: > > > > There is one big question which must be answered first: will it have > > to be Autoconf 2.13 compatible? > > > > I *strongly* suggest that it must not. It should AC_PREREQ 2.54 > > immediately. Then, I'm fi

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Earnie Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Two wrongs a right does not make. I.E.: I believe it wrong for any > maintainter to not move forward with the current versions of autotools > regardless of the maintainer's reasons for not doing so. That comes across as pretty arrogant. autoconf 2.5x w

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Thomas E. Dickey
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Lars Hecking wrote: > Bob Friesenhahn writes: > > On 8 Oct 2002, Akim Demaille wrote: > > > > > > There is one big question which must be answered first: will it have > > > to be Autoconf 2.13 compatible? > > > > > > I *strongly* suggest that it must not. It should AC_PREREQ

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Thomas E. Dickey
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Earnie Boyd wrote: > FWIR, Akim and other developers tried hard to maintain [back|bug]ward > compatibility. But, some of the incompatibility was ill formed autoconf > syntax so that incompatibility wasn't maintained and instead a better > parser was put into place. not at al

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Guido Draheim wrote: > a new-feature release is the same work as a bugfix release? > ye kiddin'... I have been using libtool since the beginning, and every new libtool release has essentially been a "bugfix" release. Unlike Autoconf and Automake, it is impossible to bring Li

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Earnie Boyd
Lars Hecking wrote: > Bob Friesenhahn writes: > >>On 8 Oct 2002, Akim Demaille wrote: >> >>>There is one big question which must be answered first: will it have >>>to be Autoconf 2.13 compatible? >>> >>>I *strongly* suggest that it must not. It should AC_PREREQ 2.54 >>>immediately. Then, I'm fi

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Sascha Schumann
> > There is one big question which must be answered first: will it have > > to be Autoconf 2.13 compatible? We use it for the PHP project (>80k lines configure script), because 2.5x is 5 to 6 times slower and contains a dependency-ignorant cache system. So, please don't create i

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Guido Draheim
a new-feature release is the same work as a bugfix release? ye kiddin'... Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > Wouldn't it be better to get libtool 1.5 out the door? The resources > required to achieve a releasable product are similar and CVS libtool > already contains most of the fixes that would go into a

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Earnie Boyd
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: > On 8 Oct 2002, Akim Demaille wrote: > >>There is one big question which must be answered first: will it have >>to be Autoconf 2.13 compatible? >> >>I *strongly* suggest that it must not. It should AC_PREREQ 2.54 >>immediately. Then, I'm fine with checking the M4 code an

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Lars Hecking
Bob Friesenhahn writes: > On 8 Oct 2002, Akim Demaille wrote: > > > > There is one big question which must be answered first: will it have > > to be Autoconf 2.13 compatible? > > > > I *strongly* suggest that it must not. It should AC_PREREQ 2.54 > > immediately. Then, I'm fine with checking the

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Akim Demaille
> "Bob" == Bob Friesenhahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bob> Wouldn't it be better to get libtool 1.5 out the door? The Bob> resources required to achieve a releasable product are similar Bob> and CVS libtool already contains most of the fixes that would go Bob> into a 1.4.3. There is one bi

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On 8 Oct 2002, Akim Demaille wrote: > > There is one big question which must be answered first: will it have > to be Autoconf 2.13 compatible? > > I *strongly* suggest that it must not. It should AC_PREREQ 2.54 > immediately. Then, I'm fine with checking the M4 code and making it > up to date.

Re: Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
Wouldn't it be better to get libtool 1.5 out the door? The resources required to achieve a releasable product are similar and CVS libtool already contains most of the fixes that would go into a 1.4.3. Bob On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Bonzini wrote: > We sorely need a libtool 1.4.3 -- autoconf is consis

Libtool 1.4.3

2002-10-08 Thread Bonzini
We sorely need a libtool 1.4.3 -- autoconf is consistently being blamed for its brokenness and in general its portability is flaky on some systems (like Darwin). I don't have the time and knowledge to propose myself for libtool maintainership, but I can trust people that do have this knowledge an

Re: libtool 1.4.2 on Darwin

2002-10-08 Thread Guido Draheim
Christoph Egger wrote: > > All what I want are three things: > > 1) That my above fix becomes part of one of the next libtool releases > 2) That libtool calls gcc with the right params, so that gcc doesn't break > the compiling process with 'gcc: -install_name only allowed with > -dynamiclib'

Re: libtool 1.4.2 on Darwin

2002-10-08 Thread Christoph Egger
> >>Christoph Egger wrote: > >> > >>I am running Darwin 6.1. libtool 1.4.2, autoconf 2.52 and automake > >>1.6.1 are shipped with it. > >> > >>The application I write loads dynamic libs at runtime or at least it > >>should. > >>But Darwin says, the dynamic lib are not of the right type of object >

Re: Shared C++ libraries on AIX

2002-10-08 Thread Martin Frydl
I've installed CVS libtool to wrong directory so aclocal used different libtool.m4. My mistake, now everything works fine. Thank you for your help. Martin Ossama Othman wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 07:01:04PM +0200, Martin Frydl wrote: > >>progname=`$echo "$0" | ${SED} 's%^.*/%%'