Re: [libreoffice-design] Android UI work

2012-04-03 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I had looked at think free office, which I know doesnt support ODF but I am using it more for the UI look. What I noted is that it displays all the directories in ones devices. I was thinking instead of doing that, When loading it would some how index the location of all files and just display

Re: [libreoffice-design] Android UI work

2012-04-03 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Christopher this is userful, but in a way you are jumping the gun here. Tor and I discussed yesterday on a good place to start, and I agree with him at this point its best to get something to where we can just open the files. As in my original email I am wondering if its worth making it easy

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Tor Lillqvist
> Tor do you still feel like this is worth including even on a mobile device > or bypassing all together? As long as we don't have a way to *create* text/spreadsheet/presentation contents from scratch, I don't see the point in having a Start Centre in a non-desktop LO-based app. I.e. there shouldn

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Tor do you still feel like this is worth including even on a mobile device or bypassing all together? On 02/04/2012 17:57, Tor Lillqvist wrote: So the startcenter was not for when all documents are closed, but when it is launched. (hence the name) Ah. Yes of course, silly me. Good that I am no

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On 02/04/2012 16:59, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi *, On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Tor Lillqvist wrote: so for the native Mac GUI port in OOo 3.0 the Start Centre was designed (in its fully gradiented glory) so it can be shown to those posh Mac users in the case when no document is opened.

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Tor Lillqvist
> So the startcenter was not for when all documents are closed, but when > it is launched. (hence the name) Ah. Yes of course, silly me. Good that I am not ashamed to admit it when I have been talking crack. --tml ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffic

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *, On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Tor Lillqvist wrote: >> so for the native Mac GUI port in OOo 3.0 the Start >> Centre was designed (in its fully gradiented glory) so it can be shown >> to those posh Mac users in the case when no document is opened. > > ("posh"?) > > Oh, odd, as that's not h

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Tor Lillqvist
> so for the native Mac GUI port in OOo 3.0 the Start > Centre was designed (in its fully gradiented glory) so it can be shown > to those posh Mac users in the case when no document is opened. ("posh"?) Oh, odd, as that's not how "normal" Mac apps work, is it? If you have no documents open in Te

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Michael Stahl
On 02/04/12 13:17, Tor Lillqvist wrote: > (In fact, > personally I think the "Start Centre" (as I think its official name > is) makes little sense on normal desktop OSes, either, and we keep it > just because we don't have the courage (or the UX resources) to get > rid of it...) OOo 2.x used to pr

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On 4/2/12 2:51 PM, Jovan Kostovski wrote: On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: May I also suggest, from a non-developer perspective, that you coordinate your work with the UX and design team ? They're been writing specs for an Android interface, if I remember well. Great s

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Jovan Kostovski
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > May I also suggest, from a non-developer perspective, that you > coordinate your work with the UX and design team ? They're been writing > specs for an Android interface, if I remember well. Great suggestion Charles, here a link to that d

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On 4/2/12 2:34 PM, Tor Lillqvist wrote: http://www.androidappsource.com/images/icons/-1874687392502665318_0_screenshot.png. Would this be the way we would want to take things? Hmm, yeah, I stand corrected; clearly comparable apps *do* have something like a "file chooser". (Although very miminal

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On 4/2/12 2:32 PM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 02/04/12 13:45, Tor Lillqvist a écrit : Hi Tor, Do comparable Android apps really have "file choosers"? (I just have the emulator, which is somewhat painful to use, and no 3rd-party apps. Yes, quite a few office suite editing apps (and not just

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Tor Lillqvist
> http://www.androidappsource.com/images/icons/-1874687392502665318_0_screenshot.png. > Would this be the way we would want to take things? Hmm, yeah, I stand corrected; clearly comparable apps *do* have something like a "file chooser". (Although very miminal compared to file choosers on desktop O

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 02/04/12 13:45, Tor Lillqvist a écrit : Hi Tor, > Do comparable Android apps really have "file choosers"? (I just have > the emulator, which is somewhat painful to use, and no 3rd-party apps. Yes, quite a few office suite editing apps (and not just viewers) still do have either a basic file

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On 4/2/12 2:11 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Jonathan, Le Mon, 02 Apr 2012 13:35:02 +0200, Jonathan Aquilina a écrit : The menu I did is equivalent to the application chooser on linux mac etc. And that is something not needed on Android (or iOS). (In fact, personally I think the "Start Centre

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Jonathan, Le Mon, 02 Apr 2012 13:35:02 +0200, Jonathan Aquilina a écrit : > >> The menu I did is equivalent to the application chooser on > >> linux mac etc. > > And that is something not needed on Android (or iOS). (In fact, > > personally I think the "Start Centre" (as I think its official nam

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On 4/2/12 1:17 PM, Tor Lillqvist wrote: SNIP The user interface of *Android* itself is an app chooser. I am farily sure one is not supposed to work around that and have one's own "app chooser" app that "opens up" sub-apps. Anyway, before we get so far that we can actually edit (and thus create)

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
SNIP. > Would you recommend i revamp the menu to allow for now just open and choosing of a file and opening it and displaying it on screen? I don't think so. I think our viewer apps will be started automatically by the system thanks to being associated with some MIME types (or whatever the t

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Michael Meeks
On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 14:17 +0300, Tor Lillqvist wrote: > And that is something not needed on Android (or iOS). (In fact, > personally I think the "Start Centre" (as I think its official name > is) makes little sense on normal desktop OSes, either, and we keep it > just because we don't have the c

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Tor Lillqvist
> I couldn't, quickly looking, find anything corresponding to a "file explorer" > even. Which is as expected, surely?) (I meant that I think it is expected that there is no "file explorer", not that a such would be expected.) --tml ___ LibreOffice mail

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Tor Lillqvist
> I think though we could still keep something like this, but when an app is > chosen, the start center on the device is unloaded, "unloaded", you mean it exits? Android app processes should never exit by own choice. If you leave an app, it just stays in the background. It's the OS that then kills

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On 4/2/12 1:17 PM, Tor Lillqvist wrote: So the menu xml file and the single java file would be sufficient to commit to the LO repository, and nothing else? The "bin" and "gen" directories should not be in source control. I am not saying a single app, I in a way trying to keep it with an applic

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Tor Lillqvist
> So the menu xml file and the single java file would be sufficient to commit > to the LO repository, and nothing else? The "bin" and "gen" directories should not be in source control. > I am not saying a single app, I in a way trying to keep it with an > application chooser that would for instan

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
On 4/2/12 12:52 PM, Tor Lillqvist wrote: https://github.com/eagles051387/LibreOffice-Android-UI- I notice that you have committed also "binaries" (build output files, even temporary ones) into git... Looking at the actual (single) source file (https://github.com/eagles051387/LibreOffic

Re: Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Tor Lillqvist
> https://github.com/eagles051387/LibreOffice-Android-UI- > I notice that you have committed also "binaries" (build output files, even temporary ones) into git... Looking at the actual (single) source file ( https://github.com/eagles051387/LibreOffice-Android-UI-/blob/master/LoDroidUI/src/loDroid

Android UI work

2012-04-02 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Hey Michael,  Tor, and all I have an initial android project I created for the UI which can be integrated into the core. I have a git hub repository here https://github.com/eagles051387/LibreOffice-Android-UI- My question though is what would be the best w