Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-14 Thread Michael Meeks
On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 14:33 +0100, Jan Holesovsky wrote: > I think the biggest issue is the offline editing; and I think here we > can use the Wiki Publisher > (http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/wikipublisher) to > edit the pages in LibreOffice. Ooh - that is an interesti

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp discussion

2010-12-13 Thread Wols Lists
On 13/12/10 10:57, David Nelson wrote: > Personally, I like the idea of editing the help on the wiki rather than > offline. > But could the problem be solved by creating a user group on the wiki and > only allowing editing rights for that group's users? Then we could add > selected > devs, i10n a

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-13 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Jean-Baptiste, On 2010-12-13 at 14:11 +0100, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Wikihelp > > > Thank you for this wiki page about WikiHelp. I will contribute with > questions and suggestions. Great, thank you! > For now, I am not sure that everybody

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-13 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Sophie, On 2010-12-13 at 14:05 +0300, Sophie Gautier wrote: > > I have subscribed to the l10n mailing list just on Friday, after I > > learned that there were some discussions there I was not aware of until > > then. > > This is the list for the people doing the work you're currently > remov

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-13 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi Kendy, Le 13/12/2010 11:37, Jan Holesovsky a écrit : > Hi Jean-Baptiste, > > On 2010-12-11 at 10:01 +0100, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: >> I can't find any wiki page which explain this project. Does such >> web-page exists ? If not, I think such should be created as a reference. > Good idea, I've

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp discussion

2010-12-13 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Regardless if its spam posting or editing of a pages its all moderated so if there is spam its automatically denied. also they have it to where you have to have a login to be able to do any editing. CAPTCHA can also help mitigate spam and bots when users sign up to be able to do any editing of

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp discussion

2010-12-13 Thread Michael Meeks
On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 18:57 +0800, David Nelson wrote: > Personally, I like the idea of editing the help on the wiki rather than > offline. > But could the problem be solved by creating a user group on the wiki and > only allowing editing rights for that group's users? Then we could add > select

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp discussion

2010-12-13 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Michael, On 13/12/2010 13:24, Michael Meeks wrote: Hi Sophie& all, On Sat, 2010-12-11 at 14:35 +0300, Sophie Gautier wrote: I've search for your explanation on our list but didn't find them. Currently we (the localizer team) do not want the localized help to be uploaded on the wiki until we

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-13 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Kendy, First, thanks for your answer: On 13/12/2010 13:20, Jan Holesovsky wrote: Hi Sophie, On 2010-12-11 at 14:35 +0300, Sophie Gautier wrote: I have heard quite some complaints about the missing native language versions already; I am not sure I've explained it well enough previously, but

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp discussion

2010-12-13 Thread David Nelson
Hi Michael, :-) On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 18:24, Michael Meeks wrote: >        So - there is no need to open the wiki for editing ever, if that is a > huge problem for people, and certainly we don't have to do this for 3.3, > and certainly we don't have to open the wiki so just anyone can turn up >

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-13 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I have one suggestion and I have seen this on the Ubuntu wiki. When any editing is done on a page its emailed to a team, in this case the wiki team, and they check it for formatting so its consistent as well as the content. On 12/13/2010 11:46 AM, Jan Holesovsky wrote: Hi Jean-Baptiste, On

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-13 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Jean-Baptiste, On 2010-12-13 at 11:02 +0100, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: > What about security ? How can you protect WikiHelp against vandalism and > spam if everybody is allowed to update this on-line help ? It seems it > is not so easy if you consider the wiki of OOo. So far the accounts are

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-13 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Jean-Baptiste, On 2010-12-11 at 10:01 +0100, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: > I can't find any wiki page which explain this project. Does such > web-page exists ? If not, I think such should be created as a reference. Good idea, I've created it now based on the mail to Sophie; and sorry that I ha

[Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp discussion

2010-12-13 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Sophie & all, On Sat, 2010-12-11 at 14:35 +0300, Sophie Gautier wrote: > I've search for your explanation on our list but didn't find them. > Currently we (the localizer team) do not want the localized help to be > uploaded on the wiki until we know about the localization process that > will be

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-13 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Sophie, On 2010-12-11 at 14:35 +0300, Sophie Gautier wrote: > > I have heard quite some complaints about the missing native language > > versions already; I am not sure I've explained it well enough > > previously, but this testing is blocking it. So please - help me :-) > > I've search for

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-13 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Le 11/12/2010 10:01, Jean-Baptiste Faure a écrit : > Le 06/12/2010 17:04, Jan Holesovsky a écrit : >> Hi, >> >> I am sorry - I promised the LibO online help (WikiHelp) already the last >> week, but it haven't happened; it needed more work than anticipated :-( >> >> Either way, the good news is that

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-13 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Alex, On 2010-12-11 at 12:19 +0100, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > > I have heard quite some complaints about the missing native language > > versions already; I am not sure I've explained it well enough > > previously, but this testing is blocking it. So please - help me :-) > > > > Any chanc

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-11 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Kendy, On 11/12/2010 01:42, Jan Holesovsky wrote: Hi all, [...] I have heard quite some complaints about the missing native language versions already; I am not sure I've explained it well enough previously, but this testing is blocking it. So please - help me :-) I've search for your ex

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-11 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 10/12/10 23:42, Jan Holesovsky a écrit : Hi Kendy, > I have heard quite some complaints about the missing native language > versions already; I am not sure I've explained it well enough > previously, but this testing is blocking it. So please - help me :-) > Any chance of getting entries fo

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-11 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Le 06/12/2010 17:04, Jan Holesovsky a écrit : > Hi, > > I am sorry - I promised the LibO online help (WikiHelp) already the last > week, but it haven't happened; it needed more work than anticipated :-( > > Either way, the good news is that I am currently uploading the files, > and I'll make the si

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-10 Thread David Nelson
Hi Kendy, :-) On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 06:42, Jan Holesovsky wrote: > I got just 2 additional bugreports, I am not sure it is enough ;-) > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32290 > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32291 > > All four are fixed now, but please - really test

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-10 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi all, On 2010-12-07 at 16:45 +0100, Jan Holesovsky wrote: > > Either way, the good news is that I am currently uploading the files, > > and I'll make the site online as soon as it finishes, and I do few > > trivial checks; it should be later today (ETA 5 more hours, I am > > populating the data

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-08 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Miklos, On 2010-12-08 at 18:59 +0100, Miklos Vajna wrote: > > Actually - if anyone volunteers to improve the Main_Page (eg. collect > > links to swriter/start, scalc/start, ...), I'll be happy to create the > > account for him to do that; or I can cut and paste any improvements sent > > to thi

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-08 Thread Miklos Vajna
On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 02:48:16PM +0100, Jan Holesovsky wrote: > > Did I miss the point? :) > > You did ;-) The point is not to browse the help per se (even though it > can of course evolve into that), but the real usage is to hit F1 in > LibreOffice without a help installed, and you'll get _di

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-08 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 08/12/10 15:22, Jan Holesovsky a écrit : > We have these, eg. when you hit F1 in a freshly opened Writer, you get > to: > > http://help.libreoffice.org/Swriter/start > When I hit F1 on my Macbook, my screen brightness diminishes... When I hit Fn-F1 together, the inline help is displayed. I'

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-08 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Muthu, On 2010-12-08 at 19:40 +0530, Muthu Subramanian K wrote: > I guess we should tie the 'help-welcome' (the page that opens when the > user clicks Help->Help from menu) pages to the wiki/Main_Page or > probably create a LibreOffice welcome help page (to point to the Writer, > Calc, and oth

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-08 Thread Muthu Subramanian K
Kendy, I guess we should tie the 'help-welcome' (the page that opens when the user clicks Help->Help from menu) pages to the wiki/Main_Page or probably create a LibreOffice welcome help page (to point to the Writer, Calc, and other applications help-start pages)... I too felt it odd for it not to

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-08 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 14:40 +0100, Jan Holesovsky wrote: > Hi Kohei, > > On 2010-12-07 at 11:05 -0500, Kohei Yoshida wrote: > > > > > http://help.libreoffice.org is now up and running. > > > > > > Can someone post the IP address of that site? For me, that leads to the > > > old go-ooo source c

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-08 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Miklos, On 2010-12-07 at 22:21 +0100, Miklos Vajna wrote: > > http://help.libreoffice.org is now up and running. As explained above, > > it is not open for public editing yet. > > I must miss something really trivial, but I do not see where to start > reading. :) The only way to find pages f

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-08 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Kohei, On 2010-12-07 at 11:05 -0500, Kohei Yoshida wrote: > > > http://help.libreoffice.org is now up and running. > > > > Can someone post the IP address of that site? For me, that leads to the > > old go-ooo source code documentation by doxygen. It could be a DNS > > caching issue if we

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-08 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Hi Miklos, Le 07/12/10 22:21, Miklos Vajna a écrit : > > I must miss something really trivial, but I do not see where to start > reading. :) The only way to find pages from the main page is to use the > Random page or Recent changes feature. > > Did I miss the point? :) > No you didn't. In fa

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-07 Thread Miklos Vajna
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 04:45:28PM +0100, Jan Holesovsky wrote: > http://help.libreoffice.org is now up and running. As explained above, > it is not open for public editing yet. Hi, I must miss something really trivial, but I do not see where to start reading. :) The only way to find pages fro

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-07 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 10:58 -0500, Kohei Yoshida wrote: > On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 16:45 +0100, Jan Holesovsky wrote: > > > > http://help.libreoffice.org is now up and running. > > Can someone post the IP address of that site? For me, that leads to the > old go-ooo source code documentation by dox

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-07 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *, On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Kohei Yoshida wrote: > On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 16:45 +0100, Jan Holesovsky wrote: >> >> http://help.libreoffice.org is now up and running. > > Can someone post the IP address of that site? help.libreoffice.org. 86365 IN A 195.135.221.70 ciao Ch

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-07 Thread Kohei Yoshida
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 16:45 +0100, Jan Holesovsky wrote: > > http://help.libreoffice.org is now up and running. Can someone post the IP address of that site? For me, that leads to the old go-ooo source code documentation by doxygen. It could be a DNS caching issue if we are trying to change th

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-07 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi all, On 2010-12-06 at 17:04 +0100, Jan Holesovsky wrote: > Either way, the good news is that I am currently uploading the files, > and I'll make the site online as soon as it finishes, and I do few > trivial checks; it should be later today (ETA 5 more hours, I am > populating the database thr

[Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-06 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi, I am sorry - I promised the LibO online help (WikiHelp) already the last week, but it haven't happened; it needed more work than anticipated :-( Either way, the good news is that I am currently uploading the files, and I'll make the site online as soon as it finishes, and I do few trivial che

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-12-03 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) I was just wondering if there are any updates about progress with the WikiHelp? ;-) David Nelson ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-11-26 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) I suppose that logically this is something for the documentation team to get involved in... We're having a phone conference this weekend... Shall I add it to the agenda? If you need a docs person to liaise with about this, please feel free to include me in the loop. David Nelson On Fri,

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-11-26 Thread David Nelson
Hi Sophie, Kendy, Christian, :-) Thanks for the answers and info... I'll talk about this with other docs people, and we'll probably have input about this in a couple of days... David Nelson ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-11-26 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Christian, David, On 2010-11-26 at 14:04 +0100, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > > So where would the "root" editing of the source text be done? > > In the actual sources, in git. > For help it would be > http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/help/tree/helpcontent2/source > for other stuff like

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-11-26 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi all, On 26/11/2010 16:04, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi David, *, On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 1:56 PM, David Nelson wrote: On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 20:42, Christian Lohmaier wrote: No - english (en_US) is defined within the sources, so english is the "master language" and no translation. But t

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-11-26 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 21:04, Christian Lohmaier wrote: >> (BTW, *where* is this Pootle web to be found?) > > It would help to write why the answer: > > http://pootle.documentfoundation.org/ (alias > http://translations.documentfoundation.org/ ) > > didn't make you happy... Sorry, I was

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-11-26 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi David, *, On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 1:56 PM, David Nelson wrote: > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 20:42, Christian Lohmaier > wrote: >> No - english (en_US) is defined within the sources, so english is the >> "master language" and no translation. >> But there is en_UK (but for most of the string it of

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-11-26 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 20:42, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > No - english (en_US) is defined within the sources, so english is the > "master language" and no translation. > But there is en_UK (but for most of the string it of course just falls > back to en-US) So where would the "root" edi

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-11-26 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Jan, *; On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:00 AM, Jan Holesovsky wrote: > On 2010-11-25 at 22:24 +0100, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > > So first - what is WikiHelp?  It is going to be a help.libreoffice.org > site, where the LibreOffice help will be stored.  The intention is that > it will be a Wiki - be

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-11-26 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi David, Jonathan, *, On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 11:29 AM, David Nelson wrote: > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 18:22, Jonathan Aquilina > wrote: >> how do you guys carry out the conference calls are they carried out on >> skype? > > It's on Talkyoo, Jonathan. ...but you can call-in using skype All di

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-11-26 Thread David Nelson
Hi Kendy, :-) On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 17:19, Jan Holesovsky wrote: >> I suppose that logically this is something for the documentation team >> to get involved in... We're having a phone conference this weekend... >> Shall I add it to the agenda? > > Indeed - that would be cool!  I am not sure if

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-11-26 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 11:22:02 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > how do you guys carry out the conference calls are they carried out on > skype? Ho Jonathan, if you actually had a look at the link that was given, you would see how they are carried out. > > [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Doc

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-11-26 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 18:32, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > hijacking the thread here, but it might come in hand if users who want to > join in so they can give their point of view. are end users also welcome to > join? You're welcome to listen in, but we have a lot of stuff on the agenda

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-11-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
hijacking the thread here, but it might come in hand if users who want to join in so they can give their point of view. are end users also welcome to join? On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 11:29 AM, David Nelson wrote: > Hi, :-) > > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 18:22, Jonathan Aquilina > wrote: > > how do you

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-11-26 Thread David Nelson
Hi, :-) On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 18:22, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > how do you guys carry out the conference calls are they carried out on > skype? It's on Talkyoo, Jonathan. David Nelson ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org ht

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-11-26 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
how do you guys carry out the conference calls are they carried out on skype? On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 10:46 AM, David Nelson wrote: > Hi Kendy, :-) > > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 17:19, Jan Holesovsky wrote: > > Hi David, > > > > On 2010-11-26 at 16:44 +0800, David Nelson wrote: > > > >> I suppose

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-11-26 Thread David Nelson
Hi Kendy, :-) On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 17:19, Jan Holesovsky wrote: > Hi David, > > On 2010-11-26 at 16:44 +0800, David Nelson wrote: > >> I suppose that logically this is something for the documentation team >> to get involved in... We're having a phone conference this weekend... >> Shall I add i

Re: [Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-11-26 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi David, On 2010-11-26 at 16:44 +0800, David Nelson wrote: > I suppose that logically this is something for the documentation team > to get involved in... We're having a phone conference this weekend... > Shall I add it to the agenda? Indeed - that would be cool! I am not sure if I can show up

[Libreoffice] LibreOffice WikiHelp

2010-11-26 Thread Jan Holesovsky
Hi Christian, On 2010-11-25 at 22:24 +0100, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > > Hm... how will the help be exported? What's easiest for you? MediaWiki, any > > other interface? > > The question is whether you want people to just read the content > there, or whether you want people to update content. I