Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-09 Thread Sophie Gautier
On 10/12/2010 03:50, Wols Lists wrote: On 09/12/10 22:21, Marc Paré wrote: I can see how a USB stick would be a more elegant way of distributing the distro. The price would seem to be the only problem that I can see. Framakey (Framasoft) is offering a 4gig stick for 19Euro and 4Eu shipping. A sm

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-09 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-12-09 19:50, Wols Lists a écrit : On 09/12/10 22:21, Marc Paré wrote: I can see how a USB stick would be a more elegant way of distributing the distro. The price would seem to be the only problem that I can see. Framakey (Framasoft) is offering a 4gig stick for 19Euro and 4Eu shipping. A

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-09 Thread Wols Lists
On 09/12/10 22:21, Marc Paré wrote: > I can see how a USB stick would be a more elegant way of distributing > the distro. The price would seem to be the only problem that I can > see. Framakey (Framasoft) is offering a 4gig stick for 19Euro and 4Eu > shipping. A smaller and less expensive stick cou

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-09 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-12-09 08:20, Sophie Gautier a écrit : If you would like, I can introduce Pierre-Yves to you, he is from Framasoft and taking care currently to package the FramaKey described here: http://framakey.org/Pack/Framakey-Ubuntu (FR) http://framakey.org/En/Details (EN). Kind regards Sophie _

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-09 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Marc, On 08/12/2010 21:20, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-12-08 04:20, Michael Meeks a écrit : Hi Alexander, On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 10:04 +0100, Alexander Thurgood wrote: In countries where power supplies are intermittent, or irregular, it matters a great deal. If your phone or electricity lines c

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-08 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi, On 08/12/2010 21:20, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-12-08 04:20, Michael Meeks a écrit : Hi Alexander, On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 10:04 +0100, Alexander Thurgood wrote: In countries where power supplies are intermittent, or irregular, it matters a great deal. If your phone or electricity lines crap o

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-08 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi there, On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 08:04 -0800, plino wrote: > No. LO is NOT working on it. That is quite comic; if you read my blog, you'll discover I've been working on it for two days, and with some success - and I've been doing few of the other urgent things in my life that need doing, i

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-08 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 08:04:30 -0800 (PST), plino wrote: > No. LO is NOT working on it. This has been discussed on other topics since > late Nov (Beta1 or 2) Yes, they are. Michael Meeks disected the Windows installer and posted information about it just recently. Stop pretending you know what peopl

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-12-08 04:20, Michael Meeks a écrit : Hi Alexander, On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 10:04 +0100, Alexander Thurgood wrote: In countries where power supplies are intermittent, or irregular, it matters a great deal. If your phone or electricity lines crap out part way through the download, and you w

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-08 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 08/12/10 10:20, Michael Meeks a écrit : Hi Michael, > Would you download a copy of that proprietary suite instead ? or would > you get it on CD ? Ultimately, I'd love to see some Ubuntu style ship-it > service to provide CDs to serve the 3rd world cheaply. As/when we have a > foundation

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-08 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Kevin, *, On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Kevin Hunter wrote: > > Would this be a suitable reason to offer the download as a torrent? Torrents have been available from the very beginning (and still are available of course). But unfortunately you're not always allowed or able to download usin

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-12-08 10:38, Michael Meeks a écrit : Hi Marc, On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 10:10 -0500, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-12-08 04:20, Michael Meeks a écrit : Right - a properly formed bug report for this in the bug tracker with details of language etc. would be much appreciated. .. I put th

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-08 Thread plino
Is that the final bug tracker? Does it include all open bugs reported for Openoffice as well? Otherwise I could just be reporting a bug for LO which is already known for OOo... Unless that is the idea? In any case I assumed from previous discussions on this mailing list that a simple validation

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-08 Thread Kevin Hunter
At 11:04am -0500 Wed, 08 Dec 2010, Plino wrote: I'm willing to report the bugs I find when a proper bug tracker is set up. Do you mean something other than what is currently available through bugs.freedesktop.org? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&product=LibreOffi

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-08 Thread plino
>Wait - you also complained about RC1's size ? and then again here with >a link ? :-) and Charles told you're we're working on fixing it, which >is what we are doing ... No. LO is NOT working on it. This has been discussed on other topics since late Nov (Beta1 or 2) http://nabble.document

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-08 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-12-08 04:20, Michael Meeks a écrit : On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 14:33 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Marc you mentioned a lack of a spell checker. what bout on any OS using another dictionary like Aspell or something of the sort? Right - a properly formed bug report for this in the

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-08 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi there, On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 06:53 -0800, plino wrote: > >On the other hand - now is not a wonderful time to be discovering > >this :-) The outline of what was suggested wrt. multi-language installs > >has been on the table for several months, and was there in Beta3; RC1 is > >not an id

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-08 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Marc, On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 10:10 -0500, Marc Paré wrote: > Le 2010-12-08 04:20, Michael Meeks a écrit : > > Right - a properly formed bug report for this in the bug tracker with > > details of language etc. would be much appreciated. .. > I put this on the user list recently and here is th

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-08 Thread Kevin Hunter
At 4:20am -0500 Wed, 08 Dec 2010, Michael Meeks wrote: On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 10:04 +0100, Alexander Thurgood wrote: In countries where power supplies are intermittent, or irregular, it matters a great deal. If your phone or electricity lines crap out part way through the download, and you were o

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-08 Thread plino
Regarding this comment >On the other hand - now is not a wonderful time to be discovering >this :-) The outline of what was suggested wrt. multi-language installs >has been on the table for several months, and was there in Beta3; RC1 is >not an ideal time to notice these issues. It is in

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-08 Thread Tor Lillqvist
> In countries where power supplies are intermittent, or irregular, it > matters a great deal. OK, I will stop arguing then. --tml ___ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffic

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1 spell checking

2010-12-08 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 09:46 +, Caolán McNamara wrote: > On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 10:37 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > What about mac and windows users? Is Hunspell available for them as well? > > This was about using spelling dictionaries that are already available on > the target platform.

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1 spell checking

2010-12-08 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 10:37 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > What about mac and windows users? Is Hunspell available for them as well? This was about using spelling dictionaries that are already available on the target platform. And Mac and Windows don't typically have hunspell as their default s

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1 spell checking

2010-12-08 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
What about mac and windows users? Is Hunspell available for them as well? On 12/8/10 10:34 AM, Caolán McNamara wrote: On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 09:20 +, Michael Meeks wrote: On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 14:33 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: Marc you mentioned a lack of a spell checker. what bout on a

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1 spell checking

2010-12-08 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 09:20 +, Michael Meeks wrote: > On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 14:33 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > > Marc you mentioned a lack of a spell checker. what bout on any OS using > > another dictionary like Aspell or something of the sort? > > Right - a properly formed bug re

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-08 Thread Michael Meeks
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 14:33 +0100, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > Marc you mentioned a lack of a spell checker. what bout on any OS using > another dictionary like Aspell or something of the sort? Right - a properly formed bug report for this in the bug tracker with details of language etc.

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-08 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Alexander, On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 10:04 +0100, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > In countries where power supplies are intermittent, or irregular, it > matters a great deal. If your phone or electricity lines crap out part > way through the download, and you were on a pay-per-minute connection, > what

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-08 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Hi Tor, Le 07/12/10 13:24, Tor Lillqvist a écrit : > Does it really matter a lot if downloading the LibreOffice installer takes > four or eight hours on some specific slow connection? Are people going to sit > by the computer staring at the download progress bar doing nothing else > during the

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-07 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-12-07 12:44, Michael Meeks a écrit : So - how do you get data to your users ? as Tor says, if you are downloading 160Mb over a modem currently, 300Mb will take twice as long - but are you going to just sit there watching it ? After having lived through long downloads through

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-07 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Olivier, On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 08:11 -0200, Olivier Hallot wrote: > Oh please, lets for a moment think that LibreOffice is not restricted to > Europe-USA. Quite. The rational here was to ensure that everyone's language is treated equally. Incidentally, as an aside - the problem space

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Tor they wont, but what if they need a quick solution for something they need to work on at work, the could be in a lot of trouble. On 12/07/2010 01:24 PM, Tor Lillqvist wrote: Does it really matter a lot if downloading the LibreOffice installer takes four or eight hours on some specific slow

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Marc you mentioned a lack of a spell checker. what bout on any OS using another dictionary like Aspell or something of the sort? On 12/07/2010 07:33 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2010-12-06 17:10, Michael Meeks a écrit : ingos usWell - we are looking again at how best to re-package it. The 'obvi

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-07 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Chris, Jean-Baptiste, all, Chris Carpenter wrote (07-12-10 06:26) On 12/06/2010 05:15 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: Why not grouping all installation tasks in the language pack ? 1/ the user download the language pack he want 2/ he installs this language pack and its installer ask the use

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-07 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi, On 07/12/2010 15:24, Tor Lillqvist wrote: Does it really matter a lot if downloading the LibreOffice installer takes four or eight hours on some specific slow connection? Are people going to sit by the computer staring at the download progress bar doing nothing else during the time? Yes,

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-07 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Does it really matter a lot if downloading the LibreOffice installer takes four or eight hours on some specific slow connection? Are people going to sit by the computer staring at the download progress bar doing nothing else during the time? --tml _

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-07 Thread Olivier Hallot
Oh please, lets for a moment think that LibreOffice is not restricted to Europe-USA. I may reconsider strongly to follow LO if Broadband is a luxury in everyelse country I know. Including Brazil, where it is scandalously expensive and available to a very few of the richest in large cities. S

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-07 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Michael, On 07/12/2010 01:10, Michael Meeks wrote: Hi Sophie& Wols, On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 20:57 +0300, Sophie Gautier wrote: Like some other members of the L10n project, I'm not very happy with the RC1 we provided: :-) - the Windows multilanguage installer is really a pain when

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-07 Thread Marc Paré
Le 2010-12-06 17:10, Michael Meeks a écrit : Well - we are looking again at how best to re-package it. The 'obvious' solutions are not very pleasant ones though. So - with only ten languages (all of my Catalan, Hungarian, friends start screaming) - we can cover some huge proportion o

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-06 Thread Chris Carpenter
On 12/06/2010 05:15 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote: > Hi, > > Le 06/12/2010 23:10, Michael Meeks a écrit : >> Hi Sophie& Wols, >> >> On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 20:57 +0300, Sophie Gautier wrote: >>> - the Windows multilanguage installer is really a pain when you are on a >>> slow connexion >>

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-06 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi, Le 06/12/2010 23:10, Michael Meeks a écrit : > Hi Sophie & Wols, > > On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 20:57 +0300, Sophie Gautier wrote: >> - the Windows multilanguage installer is really a pain when you are on a >> slow connexion > It took under five minutes for me to download; 8Mbit, I can imagi

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-06 Thread Michael Meeks
Hi Sophie & Wols, On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 20:57 +0300, Sophie Gautier wrote: > Like some other members of the L10n project, I'm not very happy with the > RC1 we provided: :-) > - the Windows multilanguage installer is really a pain when you are on a > slow connexion It took unde

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/12/10 18:49, Rene Engelhard wrote: > Is that really a argument now that most people use broadband? Should we > really care about those wo don't (and downlaod a new version every few > months?) What about those people who *C*an't use broadband? Okay, I wouldn't call 2Mb slow, but we still hav

Re: [Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-06 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, On Mon, Dec 06, 2010 at 08:57:11PM +0300, Sophie Gautier wrote: > Like some other members of the L10n project, I'm not very happy with > the RC1 we provided: > - the Windows multilanguage installer is really a pain when you are > on a slow connexion Is that really a argument now that most peo

[Libreoffice] Comments on RC1

2010-12-06 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi all, Like some other members of the L10n project, I'm not very happy with the RC1 we provided: - the Windows multilanguage installer is really a pain when you are on a slow connexion - once you're done with the version, you realize that you do not get the help files, - no spellchecker is av