Re: Udev-165 (apparently) System Crash

2011-01-11 Thread alupu
On Thu Jan 6 2011 09:24 PM, William Immendorf wrote: > Intriguing. This is something that you should report to both > LKML and linux-hotplug (the Udev list). > Also, be sure to provide the kdump of that kernel, the log, > and the hardware that you think is causing the Udev issue. Hi William, Fir

Re: Udev-165 (apparently) System Crash

2011-01-08 Thread William Immendorf
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 2:34 PM, wrote: > I haven't had time to go into any depth at all, what with the NFL playoffs and > all, but judging strictly by the size of your comments, I may be on the brink > of going > kdump after all.  I am a bit traumatized by kdump, I remember finding little > sup

Re: Udev-165 (apparently) System Crash

2011-01-08 Thread alupu
On Saturday 08 January 2011 02:48 PM Neal Murphy wrote: > While I was integrating udev into my test/dev version of Smoothwall ... Hi Neal, This is only to acknowledge and thank you for your detailed comments. I haven't had time to go into any depth at all, what with the NFL playoffs and all, but

Re: Udev-165 (apparently) System Crash

2011-01-08 Thread Neal Murphy
On Saturday 08 January 2011 13:44:23 al...@verizon.net wrote: > On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 02:08 AM, Simon Geard wrote: > > ... udevd supports a couple of options that might help, --debug and > > --debug-trace. > > 1. FWIW, udevd-165 does not (no-longer?) have a "--debug-trace" option. > Maybe it's u

Re: Udev-165 (apparently) System Crash

2011-01-08 Thread alupu
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 02:08 AM, Simon Geard wrote: > ... udevd supports a couple of options that might help, --debug and > --debug-trace. 1. FWIW, udevd-165 does not (no-longer?) have a "--debug-trace" option. Maybe it's undocumented now (shades of "Undocumented DOS" of yore :) Please see 'ma

Re: Udev-165 (apparently) System Crash

2011-01-06 Thread Simon Geard
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 18:36 -0600, al...@verizon.net wrote: > The important thing for me is you appear to support me, even if > indirectly, in my attempt to avoid kdump in my troubleshoot, if at all > possible :) Happy to help. Simon. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed messag

Re: Udev-165 (apparently) System Crash

2011-01-06 Thread William Immendorf
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:36 PM, wrote: > If I correctly read the frozen screen, and taking into account the Udev step > where the crash occurs, seems an IRQ conflict of some sort. > I'll dig into it. Intriguing. This is something that you should report to both LKML and linux-hotplug (the Udev lis

Re: Udev-165 (apparently) System Crash

2011-01-06 Thread alupu
On Thu, 2011-01-06 at 02:08:45 AM, Simon Geard wrote> ...> if the system is completely frozen, it may be hardware related ...Hi Simon,Very good points, overall.When it crashes it's frozen all right (i.e. a crash crash).No hardware changes as of late.Seems some old hardware the latest Udev iteratio

Re: Udev-165 (apparently) System Crash

2011-01-05 Thread Simon Geard
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 20:12 -0600, al...@verizon.net wrote: > QUESTION > Is there a simple way of analyzing the crash, maybe with help of > the specialists here, as opposed to formally reporting it? Never tried, myself, but udevd supports a couple of options that might help, --debug and --debug-tr

Udev-165 (apparently) System Crash

2011-01-05 Thread alupu
Hello, Hardware: ASUS P4S533-MX, Intel Pentium 4, 3.06 GHz, 1 GB, PATA Software: i686-pc-linux-gnu, (B)LFS, 2.6.36.2, ext2, udev-165 PROBLEM System started crashing on boot-up recently, about 50% of the time. "Softly", i.e. after reboot, fsck returns 1 (errors found and corrected). In the Udev di