Re: Headers problems

2007-06-24 Thread Tijnema
I want to thank everyone that tried to help solving this problem, I still don't have it solved, but I'm getting a new Mobo + CPU + RAM, so everything will be fine! Tijnema -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: Se

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-16 Thread ANIRUDH VIJ
I also don't have experience with this stuff.Tijnema may know more because he has actual experience with it.They dont really teach how to tinker with motherboards in courses :) But if you have access to a voltmeter ,you could measure the voltage across the terminals of the capacitor.Its getting hot

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-16 Thread Tijnema
On 6/17/07, Wit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ANIRUDH VIJ wrote: > > > > Unless you know the circuit type (LC, RC, ...), its expected input and > > output, you are risking havoc by changing the value of *any* of the > > components in the circuit. IIRC, by changing the the capacitor to a > >

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-16 Thread Wit
ANIRUDH VIJ wrote: > > Unless you know the circuit type (LC, RC, ...), its expected input and > output, you are risking havoc by changing the value of *any* of the > components in the circuit. IIRC, by changing the the capacitor to a > higher voltage rating, you have altered (possibly)

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-16 Thread ANIRUDH VIJ
Unless you know the circuit type (LC, RC, ...), its expected input and output, you are risking havoc by changing the value of *any* of the components in the circuit. IIRC, by changing the the capacitor to a higher voltage rating, you have altered (possibly) at least two things (assumin

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-16 Thread Wit
Tijnema wrote: > On 6/12/07, Wit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Tijnema wrote: >> >>> >>> >> I also become increasingly concerned with the mention of the capacitors >> and repair you did (IIRC?). Both would seem a "most likely" culprit, >> based on all the other things discussed.

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-14 Thread Tijnema
On 6/12/07, Wit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tijnema wrote: > > > > >> > >> Also, the 5.0 has an inserted module, asus_acpi. I don't think every > >> system needs a special driver though, whether module or compiled in. But > >> you may need to check extended explanations in kernel config and see

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-12 Thread Wit
Tijnema wrote: > >>> The directory's /proc/acpi/thermal_zone exist, but that one is empty. >>> Please look at this: >>> cat config-2.6.17.11 | grep ACPI >>> # Power management options (ACPI, APM) >>> # ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support >>> CONFIG_ACPI=y >>> CONFIG_ACPI_AC=

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-10 Thread Bauke Jan Douma
Tijnema wrote on 10-06-07 02:09: > Either reply friendly, or don't reply. I know i can buy a new PC and > everything works fine. But that's not the point of this discussion. If > you don't like it, don't join the discussion. Yes I was getting irritated because I got the impression you were more r

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-09 Thread Tijnema
On 6/10/07, Bauke Jan Douma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tijnema wrote on 09-06-07 23:01: > >> I just realized what you said here. What you can touch at this point is > >> *not* the CPU at all. It is essentially the carrier. The CPU is the > >> little raised portion in the center of the "carrier".

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-09 Thread Tijnema
On 6/10/07, Wit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tijnema wrote: > > On 6/9/07, Wit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Tijnema wrote: > >> > On 6/9/07, Wit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Tijnema wrote: > >> >> > > > >> >> I suggest doing your kernel with CONFIG_ACPI=y and > >> CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y > >

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-09 Thread Bauke Jan Douma
Tijnema wrote on 09-06-07 23:01: >> I just realized what you said here. What you can touch at this point is >> *not* the CPU at all. It is essentially the carrier. The CPU is the >> little raised portion in the center of the "carrier". It is the only >> part that will normally get very hot. The out

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-09 Thread Tijnema
On 6/9/07, Wit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tijnema wrote: > > On 6/9/07, Wit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Tijnema wrote: > >> > >>> On 6/8/07, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 10:46:11AM +0200, Tijnema wrote: > > > > > Thermal paste

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-09 Thread Wit
Tijnema wrote: > On 6/9/07, Wit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Tijnema wrote: >> >>> On 6/8/07, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 10:46:11AM +0200, Tijnema wrote: > Thermal paste must be dryed out, but that doesn't mean i

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-09 Thread Tijnema
On 6/9/07, Wit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tijnema wrote: > > On 6/8/07, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 10:46:11AM +0200, Tijnema wrote: > >> > > > >>> ... I'm only at a good old single core AMD > >>> Athlon XP system, which is clocked down to 1.15Ghz

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-09 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 6/8/07, Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/9/07, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 11:23:19PM +0200, Tijnema wrote: > > > > > > It can build GCC fine, I've builded a complete GCC package (Including > > > ada, fortran,...) lately, I just didn't run GCC tests

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-09 Thread Wit
Tijnema wrote: > On 6/8/07, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 10:46:11AM +0200, Tijnema wrote: >> >>> ... I'm only at a good old single core AMD >>> Athlon XP system, which is clocked down to 1.15Ghz with 512MB SD >>> Having followed the compl

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-08 Thread Tijnema
On 6/9/07, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 11:23:19PM +0200, Tijnema wrote: > > > > It can build GCC fine, I've builded a complete GCC package (Including > > ada, fortran,...) lately, I just didn't run GCC testsuite completely, > > but compiling and installing works

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 11:23:19PM +0200, Tijnema wrote: > > It can build GCC fine, I've builded a complete GCC package (Including > ada, fortran,...) lately, I just didn't run GCC testsuite completely, > but compiling and installing works fine, and gcc works fine now :) > Oh, I misunderstood.

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-08 Thread Tijnema
On 6/8/07, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 05:34:29PM +0200, Tijnema wrote: > > On 6/8/07, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm currently at glibc-2.3.6, and I would love to upgrade it to > > > > glibc-2.6, > > > > > > Why ? I've only built glibc-2.6 o

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 05:34:29PM +0200, Tijnema wrote: > On 6/8/07, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm currently at glibc-2.3.6, and I would love to upgrade it to > > > glibc-2.6, > > > > Why ? I've only built glibc-2.6 on ppc64, to see if it helped with > > the showstopper gcc-4.2

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-08 Thread Tijnema
On 6/8/07, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 10:46:11AM +0200, Tijnema wrote: > > > > > > Dan thinks minor glibc version upgrades (2.3.5 to 2.3.6, maybe 2.6 > > > to 2.6.1) are ok. > > > > Minor upgrades are more or less bug fixes right? So I think Dan is right. > > >

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-08 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 6/8/07, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 10:46:11AM +0200, Tijnema wrote: > > > > > > Dan thinks minor glibc version upgrades (2.3.5 to 2.3.6, maybe 2.6 > > > to 2.6.1) are ok. > > > > Minor upgrades are more or less bug fixes right? So I think Dan is right. > > >

RE: Headers problems

2007-06-08 Thread Spahn, Daniel
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tijnema Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 4:46 AM To: LFS Support List Subject: Re: Headers problems On 6/7/07, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 10:23:33PM +0200, Tijn

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 10:46:11AM +0200, Tijnema wrote: > > > > Dan thinks minor glibc version upgrades (2.3.5 to 2.3.6, maybe 2.6 > > to 2.6.1) are ok. > > Minor upgrades are more or less bug fixes right? So I think Dan is right. > In theory, yes they are bug fixes. In practice, I wouldn't w

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-08 Thread Tijnema
On 6/7/07, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 10:23:33PM +0200, Tijnema wrote: > > > > Ok, thanks you both for your replies, i would expect the headers to be > > upgraded together with the kernel. > > No! Please, repeat after me: > **Only upgrade the headers if you up

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 10:23:33PM +0200, Tijnema wrote: > > Ok, thanks you both for your replies, i would expect the headers to be > upgraded together with the kernel. No! Please, repeat after me: **Only upgrade the headers if you upgrade glibc** Sometimes, nasty things get sneaked into the

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-07 Thread Tijnema
On 6/7/07, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 07:12:37AM -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote: > > On 6/7/07, Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > So, if you want to upgrade the core components > > > (Kernel+headers+glibc(+gcc?)), in which order would you install them?

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 07:12:37AM -0700, Dan Nicholson wrote: > On 6/7/07, Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > So, if you want to upgrade the core components > > (Kernel+headers+glibc(+gcc?)), in which order would you install them? > > Gcc and binutils can be updated whenever you want, AFA

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-07 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 6/7/07, Tijnema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, if you want to upgrade the core components > (Kernel+headers+glibc(+gcc?)), in which order would you install them? Gcc and binutils can be updated whenever you want, AFAIK. The kernel, definitely whenever you want. But the headers and glibc sho

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-07 Thread Tijnema
On 6/6/07, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 09:31:01AM -0300, Camponez wrote: > > Hi, > > > > My LFS is already build. I finnished like 2 years ago. Ive decide to > > update linux headers for kernel 2.6.21.1 > > So I did this > > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/v

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-06 Thread Camponez
Ups!! :) Good to know! Thanks a lot! Regards, Eduardo Elias Camponez On 6/6/07, Ken Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 09:31:01AM -0300, Camponez wrote: > > Hi, > > > > My LFS is already build. I finnished like 2 years ago. Ive decide to > > update linux headers for ke

Re: Headers problems

2007-06-06 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 09:31:01AM -0300, Camponez wrote: > Hi, > > My LFS is already build. I finnished like 2 years ago. Ive decide to > update linux headers for kernel 2.6.21.1 > So I did this > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/chapter06/linux-headers.html > > Well.. then