Re: Comparing with gentoo

2005-05-26 Thread Andrew Benton
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Re: Comparing with gentoo

2005-05-26 Thread Allard Welter
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Re: Comparing with gentoo

2005-05-26 Thread Chakkaradeep C C
Hi all, well in the world of Open source we find some people who doesnt want to improve things and keep things as how they were formed !.the reply from my friend Robert is disgusting and is really hard to digest by entirely calling a member of LFS team completely stupid. i hope the moderator

Re: Comparing with gentoo

2005-05-26 Thread Allard Welter
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Re: Comparing with gentoo

2005-05-26 Thread Robert Lee Taylor
On Wed, 2005-25-05 at 14:37 +0530, Chakkaradeep C C wrote: > Hi, > > so being this case...why hasnt LFS not gone for a Package > Management??...pls dont tell it is "Your Distro,Your Rules" becoz > unless something is reliable and stable one wont afford for > it...so answering as YDYR would be

Re: Comparing with Gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread Robert Russell
On 5/25/05, Lai Zit Seng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 25 May 2005, Chakkaradeep C C wrote: > > > I have used Linux for many years. I know what I want. No one distribution > satisfies all my needs, so it ends up that I use LFS for some work, Fedora > Core for others, and even commercial

Re: Comparing with gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread Chakkaradeep C C
Hi, > Am I the only one that doesn't understand the purpose of this thread? > I subscribed to this mailing list to review installation problems (and > successes) with LFS, not compare LFS to other distros. k my friend,can u tell in what ways u came to a conclusion that u can try LFS??even Ge

Re: Comparing with gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
nemski wrote: Am I the only one that doesn't understand the purpose of this thread? I subscribed to this mailing list to review installation problems (and successes) with LFS, not compare LFS to other distros. I've already made up my mind, that's why I am here, but then again, it could just be m

Re: Comparing with gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread nemski
On 5/25/05, Chakkaradeep C C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > > If after you set up a LFS system you decide to go with Gentoo because you > > want ease of install I can't argue with that too much as long as you got the > > experience to not feel lost if you need to install something really

Re: Comparing with gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread Chakkaradeep C C
Hi all, > If after you set up a LFS system you decide to go with Gentoo because you > want ease of install I can't argue with that too much as long as you got the > experience to not feel lost if you need to install something really from > scratch. hope u have heard of YOPER ?they have done t

Re: Comparing with gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread Shane Shields
On Wednesday 25 May 2005 2:39 pm, Ken Moffat wrote: > [yorkshire_mode] Eh, in t'good old days people knew what they wanted > from a system by t'time they came to LFS, and most o' them knew why > package managers sucked. But try telling that to t'youth o'today and > they won't believe you. [/] LOL

Re: Comparing with gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread Shane Shields
On Wednesday 25 May 2005 12:22 pm, S. Anthony Sequeira wrote: > A package manager installs dependencies based on *its* rules, which > may not be what you want. You lose control of software installed on > your machine. I am afraid I will have to respectfully disagree with that statement in regard

Re: Comparing with Gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread Robert Russell
On 5/25/05, S. Anthony Sequeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, May 25, 2005 13:45, Chakkaradeep C C said: > > oh my!..people building linux from gentoo have told me it takes nearly > > more number of days to master with.so i dont have plans to try > > with gentoo. > > You r

Re: Comparing with Gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread Robert Russell
On 5/25/05, Andrei A. Voropaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 06:06:38PM +0530, Chakkaradeep C C wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > LFS and Gentoo are similar in some ways in the sense that they both > > > offer you the opportunity to build your system from scratch, giving > > > plenty

Re: Comparing with gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread Steve Prior
Chris Zotos wrote: You can learn a lot with Gentoo, but I feel that LFS has that extra learning curve because everything is literally done from scratch! The one major thing that differs between Gentoo and LFS is the package management. ... However, with Gentoo, the package management makes ins

Re: Comparing with Gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread Lai Zit Seng
On Wed, 25 May 2005, Chakkaradeep C C wrote: LFS and Gentoo are similar in some ways in the sense that they both offer you the opportunity to build your system from scratch, giving plenty of customization and optimization choices. But their goals are probably slightly different. this is what i

Re: Comparing with Gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread S. Anthony Sequeira
On Wed, May 25, 2005 13:45, Chakkaradeep C C said: > Hi, > >> If you really want to know what it's like, (or what the differences >> are >> between it and LFS) just try it and see for yourself. Then you can >> make >> your own opinion about it. > > oh my!..people building linux from gentoo have to

Re: Comparing with Gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread Andrei A. Voropaev
On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 06:06:38PM +0530, Chakkaradeep C C wrote: > Hi, > > > LFS and Gentoo are similar in some ways in the sense that they both > > offer you the opportunity to build your system from scratch, giving > > plenty of customization and optimization choices. But their goals are > > pr

Re: Comparing with Gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread Chakkaradeep C C
Hi, > If you really want to know what it's like, (or what the differences are > between it and LFS) just try it and see for yourself. Then you can make > your own opinion about it. oh my!..people building linux from gentoo have told me it takes nearly more number of days to master with.so

Re: Comparing with Gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Chakkaradeep C C wrote: i will ask u the same question to the people out there.when will u think that perhaps Gentoo might be what you want?... If you really want to know what it's like, (or what the differences are between it and LFS) just try it and see for yourself. Then you can ma

Comparing with Gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread Chakkaradeep C C
Hi, > LFS and Gentoo are similar in some ways in the sense that they both > offer you the opportunity to build your system from scratch, giving > plenty of customization and optimization choices. But their goals are > probably slightly different. this is what i want to know,in what ways LFS a

Re: Comparing with gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread S. Anthony Sequeira
On Wed, May 25, 2005 12:39, Ken Moffat said: [...] > [yorkshire_mode] Eh, in t'good old days people knew what they wanted > from a system by t'time they came to LFS, and most o' them knew why > package managers sucked. But try telling that to t'youth o'today and > they won't believe you. [/] Sp

Re: Comparing with gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread Ken Moffat
On Wed, 25 May 2005, Chakkaradeep C C wrote: > > well :-) , here my team are very much interested with Gentoo Package > Manager...and pls do excuse me if it is not Emergeam not familiar > with gentoo except that i know it's package manager is > powerful...if it is Emergethen i think my

Re: Comparing with gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread Lai Zit Seng
Chakkaradeep C C wrote: LFS does not have any package management. If you want to install a certain package with LFS, you need to install the package AND all the package dependencies manually. However, with Gentoo, the package management makes installing software extremely easy with 'emerge'. 'eme

Re: Comparing with gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread Chakkaradeep C C
Hi, > A package manager installs dependencies based on *its* rules, which > may not be what you want. You lose control of software installed on > your machine. > > > have anybdy integrated Emerge in LFS??... > > I doubt it. Be brave, and be the first! > well :-) , here my team are very m

Re: Comparing with gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread S. Anthony Sequeira
On Wed, May 25, 2005 10:07, Chakkaradeep C C said: > Hi, > >> LFS does not have any package management. If you want to install a >> certain >> package with LFS, you need to install the package AND all the >> package >> dependencies manually. >> However, with Gentoo, the package management makes in

Re: Comparing with gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread Chakkaradeep C C
Hi, > LFS does not have any package management. If you want to install a certain > package with LFS, you need to install the package AND all the package > dependencies manually. > However, with Gentoo, the package management makes installing software > extremely easy with 'emerge'. > 'emerge' work

RE: Comparing with gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread Chris Zotos
ECTED] On Behalf Of Chakkaradeep C C Sent: 25 May 2005 10:07 To: LFS Support List Subject: Comparing with gentoo hi all, well well i tell my friend that LFS is stable has very fast after building and there has not been much problem with building it.. but my friend who has built Gentoo tells me

Comparing with gentoo

2005-05-25 Thread Chakkaradeep C C
hi all, well well i tell my friend that LFS is stable has very fast after building and there has not been much problem with building it.. but my friend who has built Gentoo tells me that the "Stage 1" of gentoo is more reliable and very powerful when compared to LFS... i am not aware of