Re: Shadow update

2008-10-11 Thread Olaf
Robert Connolly wrote: > On Thursday October 9 2008 06:21:37 pm Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> Should there be a mention of the possible use of SHA password encryption? >> > > Using MD5 or SHA can be kept simple by using all the default options for SHA, > and mentioning that there are more option

Re: Using the 'readlink' command

2008-10-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote: > Randy McMurchy wrote: >> I used the readlink command in the Udev instructions to move >> the .so files to /usr/lib as they are initially installed in >> /lib. Credit Dan Nicholson for the initial work on this change. >> This was started in BLFS and I believe it to be the right >>

Re: Using the 'readlink' command

2008-10-11 Thread DJ Lucas
Randy McMurchy wrote: > > Um, DJ, I was speaking of the .so files, not the actual libraries. > > Oops. Sorry for the noise. -- DJ Lucas -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content, and is believed to be clean. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev F

Module-init-tools 3.4.1

2008-10-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Seems I overlooked getting the update of Module-init-tools into the book. Doing that now. -- Randy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Udev test suite

2008-10-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
DJ Lucas wrote: > Randy McMurchy wrote: >> Not sure how DJ worked out that 'make check' did something. >> > Never actually validated it. The make test command failed, so IIRC, I > greped the makefile for "test", and then "check", and there it was. I noted that it didn't do anything too. I su

Re: Permission to update the Dillo2 Wiki page

2008-10-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Henty wrote: > We are going to release Dillo2 soon and so I would like to update its > BLFS Wiki page. I have logged on to my Trac account but I don't get > any option to edit the page. What should I do now? We had a permissions issue that I fixed. Please try it again. -- Bruce --

Re: Udev test suite

2008-10-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I noted that it didn't do anything too. I suppose we need to now add: > > "This package does not come with a test suite." That was done during the package update. :-) -- Randy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/fa

Re: Udev test suite

2008-10-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> I noted that it didn't do anything too. I suppose we need to now add: >> >> "This package does not come with a test suite." > > That was done during the package update. :-) Obviously I didn't check. I should have known better. :) -- Bruce -

Linux Headers Installation

2008-10-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, There's a minor ticket about explaining what the installation commands in the Linux Headers installation do, and it occurred to me that is it possible that there's a redundant step? Here's the existing commands (with my comments for the book inserted as well): First ensure the source tre

Re: Does the M4 package need to be identified as a "host requirement"?

2008-10-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote: > Randy McMurchy wrote: >> Jeremy Huntwork wrote these words on 10/06/08 10:45 CST: >> >> >>> I would think that adding it to the Host Requirements page would be >>> slightly preferable. Here's my thinking: >>> >>> We already have bison as a host req. Bison depends on m4, so mos

Re: Linux Headers Installation

2008-10-11 Thread Reece Dunn
2008/10/11 Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi all, > > There's a minor ticket about explaining what the installation > commands in the Linux Headers installation do, and it occurred > to me that is it possible that there's a redundant step? ... > Now here is where I don't really see the need

Re: Linux Headers Installation

2008-10-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Reece Dunn wrote: > I asked this question on 21/11/2007 ("Linux Headers question" > [http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2007-November/060618.html]), > which likely resulted in that ticket item. I got essentially the same > response from Thomas Trepl and Mark Rosenstand: > > Thomas Trep

Re: Does the M4 package need to be identified as a "host requirement"?

2008-10-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Sorry for quoting the entire previous post, but the material is > all relevant, and we need to make a decision. Here's the choices: > > 1. Use Jeremy's suggestion that since Bison is already a prerequisite, > which mean that m4 is probably on the host as well, simply disre

chapter 5 glibc testsuite

2008-10-11 Thread DJ Lucas
Chapter 5 glibc test suite cannot be run due to lacking g++, so the book should be changed to reflect that. Actually, it can, but it will fail if the host's gcc < 4.2.x due to the mtune flag. Also, I noticed that the remap="check" and remap="test" both are captured unconditionally in jhalfs-2

Re: chapter 5 glibc testsuite

2008-10-11 Thread DJ Lucas
DJ Lucas wrote: > Also, I noticed that > the remap="check" and remap="test" both are captured unconditionally in > jhalfs-2.3.1 Ouch. I meant in chapter05/031-glibc. Sorry, should have clarified. -- DJ Lucas -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content, and is believed

Re: chapter 5 glibc testsuite

2008-10-11 Thread DJ Lucas
DJ Lucas wrote: > Chapter 5 glibc test suite cannot be run due to lacking g++, so the book > should be changed to reflect that. Actually, it can, but it will fail > if the host's gcc < 4.2.x due to the mtune flag. > I added removed both patches, the check command, and all explanatory text an

jhalfs

2008-10-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, Does anyone have a little cheat sheet or some notes handy that would help me use jhalfs for the first time. I have a decently fast x86 machine with a spare partition that isn't doing anything right now. I've never used the jhalfs utility. I don't even know where to download it from. Any h

Re: Linux Headers Installation

2008-10-11 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 02:16:18PM -0500, Randy McMurchy wrote: > Reece Dunn wrote: > > > I asked this question on 21/11/2007 ("Linux Headers question" > > [http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2007-November/060618.html]), > > which likely resulted in that ticket item. I got essentially t

Re: chapter 5 glibc testsuite

2008-10-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote: > OK? Sounds good to me. -- Randy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: jhalfs

2008-10-11 Thread DJ Lucas
t sheet...but you want the latest version from SVN. It uses the same config interface as the kernel's make menuconfig and is pretty much self explanatory. svn co svn://svn.linuxfromscratch.org/ALFS/jhalfs/trunk jhalfs-20081011 && cd jhalfs-20081011 && make # if you do not choos

Re: chapter 5 glibc testsuite

2008-10-11 Thread DJ Lucas
DJ Lucas wrote: > This package does come with a test suite, however, it cannot be > run at this time because we do not have a C++ compiler yet. > Actually, I've never seen any discussion on this, but I believe that it was suggested to be more "personal" in one of the bugs opened by Gera

Re: chapter 5 glibc testsuite

2008-10-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote: > DJ Lucas wrote: >> This package does come with a test suite, however, it cannot be >> run at this time because we do not have a C++ compiler yet. >> > Actually, I've never seen any discussion on this, but I believe that it > was suggested to be more "personal" in one o

Re: r8641 - in trunk/BOOK: chapter01 chapter05

2008-10-11 Thread DJ Lucas
Randy McMurchy wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Author: dj >> Date: 2008-10-11 17:39:51 -0600 (Sat, 11 Oct 2008) >> New Revision: 8641 >> >> Modified: >>trunk/BOOK/chapter01/changelog.xml >>trunk/BOOK/chapter05/glibc.xml >> Log: >> removed chapter 5 glibc test suite >> > > See

Re: Does the M4 package need to be identified as a "host requirement"?

2008-10-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Since M4 is basically a short CMMI install at 0.2 SBU and 10M disk, I'd > prefer > to see it retained in Chapter 5 and moved. It may not be strictly necessary > but > the overhead of doing so is really negligible and the more we build using our > own tools without relyin

Time for some football :-) (off-topic)

2008-10-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I'm probably off-line the rest of the night as my son is playing in a college football game on TV and it's about to start. I'm going to sit back, relax and watch it. -- Randy -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: S

Re: Time for some football :-) (off-topic)

2008-10-11 Thread DJ Lucas
Randy McMurchy wrote: > my son is > playing in a college football game on TV and it's about to > start. I'm going to sit back, relax and watch it. > How cool! Enjoy! -- DJ Lucas -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content, and is believed to be clean. -- http://lin

Re: [LFS Trac] #2056: Consider using --disable-shared for gcc pass 1

2008-10-11 Thread Randy McMurchy
LFS Trac wrote: > #2056: Consider using --disable-shared for gcc pass 1 > +--- > Reporter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Type: enhancement | Status: closed

Re: [LFS Trac] #2056: Consider using --disable-shared for gcc pass 1

2008-10-11 Thread DJ Lucas
Randy McMurchy wrote: > LFS Trac wrote: > >> #2056: Consider using --disable-shared for gcc pass 1 >> +--- >> Reporter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Type: enhancement |

Re: [LFS Trac] #2056: Consider using --disable-shared for gcc pass 1

2008-10-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: > LFS Trac wrote: >> #2056: Consider using --disable-shared for gcc pass 1 >> Changes (by [EMAIL PROTECTED]): >> >> * resolution: => fixed >> >> Comment: >> >> Fixed in r8647. > > [Football game over :-) ] > > In my opinion, this puts the objective of releasing the new >

Re: [LFS Trac] #2056: Consider using --disable-shared for gcc pass 1

2008-10-11 Thread DJ Lucas
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Randy McMurchy wrote: > >> LFS Trac wrote: >> >>> #2056: Consider using --disable-shared for gcc pass 1 >>> Changes (by [EMAIL PROTECTED]): >>> >>> * resolution: => fixed >>> >>> Comment: >>> >>> Fixed in r8647. >>> >> [Football game over :-) ] >> >> In my op

Ticket 2156 - LFS LiveCD is dead

2008-10-11 Thread Bruce Dubbs
http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ticket/2156 I have changed my copy of the book to read. As an alternative to installing a separate distribution onto your machine, you may wish to use the Linux From Scratch LiveCD. The CD works well as a host system, providing all the tools y

Re: Ticket 2156 - LFS LiveCD is dead

2008-10-11 Thread DJ Lucas
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ticket/2156 > > I have changed my copy of the book to read. > > As an alternative to installing a separate distribution onto your machine, > you > may wish to use the Linux From Scratch LiveCD. The CD works well as a host >

Re: Ticket 2156 - LFS LiveCD is dead

2008-10-11 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
DJ Lucas wrote: > No. IIUC, it doesn't contain m4 and cannot build current trunk until m4 > is moved up in chapter 5, however, as soon as that happens, the text > above should work nicely. False. It uses autoreconf on some packages, and this can't work without m4. And indeed, it does contain /

Re: Ticket 2156 - LFS LiveCD is dead

2008-10-11 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ticket/2156 > > I have changed my copy of the book to read. > > As an alternative to installing a separate distribution onto your machine, > you > may wish to use the Linux From Scratch LiveCD. The CD works well as a host