Re: Ticket 2722 (Mistake on the linux console page)

2010-08-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > On 8/18/10 11:16 AM, Bryan Kadzban wrote: >> I wish Alexander was still around; he knew a lot more about language >> issues than most of us. Mostly because he could read Cyrillic, I >> believe. :-) > > He still monitors the lists, apparently, or at least checks in now an

Re: Ticket 2722 (Mistake on the linux console page)

2010-08-18 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On 8/18/10 11:16 AM, Bryan Kadzban wrote: > I wish Alexander was still around; he knew a lot more about language > issues than most of us. Mostly because he could read Cyrillic, I > believe. :-) He still monitors the lists, apparently, or at least checks in now and then. He sent me this message

Re: Ticket 2722 (Mistake on the linux console page)

2010-08-18 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Sebastian Plotz wrote: > I'm note sure, but I think that the LANG variable influences the > encoding of the output. Only if the program has been translated into the language and character set that you set in $LANG. If not, it has no effect. gettext is not magic; it just provides an alternate by

Re: Ticket 2722 (Mistake on the linux console page)

2010-08-17 Thread Sebastian Plotz
Am 18.08.2010 07:22, schrieb Sebastian Plotz: >Am 18.08.2010 00:34, schrieb Bruce Dubbs: >> Sebastian Plotz wrote: >>> Am Dienstag, den 17.08.2010, 15:55 -0500 schrieb Bruce Dubbs: Hmm. What charset am I using? >>> I guess that's the basic charset of ANSI C (see >>> http://openbook.gali

Re: Ticket 2722 (Mistake on the linux console page)

2010-08-17 Thread Sebastian Plotz
Am 18.08.2010 00:34, schrieb Bruce Dubbs: > Sebastian Plotz wrote: >> Am Dienstag, den 17.08.2010, 15:55 -0500 schrieb Bruce Dubbs: >>> Hmm. What charset am I using? >> I guess that's the basic charset of ANSI C (see >> http://openbook.galileocomputing.de/c_von_a_bis_z/003_c_grundlagen_001.htm#m

Re: Ticket 2722 (Mistake on the linux console page)

2010-08-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Sebastian Plotz wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 17.08.2010, 15:55 -0500 schrieb Bruce Dubbs: >> Hmm. What charset am I using? > > I guess that's the basic charset of ANSI C (see > http://openbook.galileocomputing.de/c_von_a_bis_z/003_c_grundlagen_001.htm#mj6cc85534f12d7e0868b75171de8d087e). > > The pr

Re: Ticket 2722 (Mistake on the linux console page)

2010-08-17 Thread Sebastian Plotz
Am Dienstag, den 17.08.2010, 15:55 -0500 schrieb Bruce Dubbs: > Hmm. What charset am I using? I guess that's the basic charset of ANSI C (see http://openbook.galileocomputing.de/c_von_a_bis_z/003_c_grundlagen_001.htm#mj6cc85534f12d7e0868b75171de8d087e). The prototype of printf: int printf(const

Re: Ticket 2722 (Mistake on the linux console page)

2010-08-17 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Sebastian Plotz wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 17.08.2010, 13:37 -0600 schrieb Matthew Burgess: >> In order to provide the best guidance to our audience, how would a reader >> determine if a program supports UTF-8 or not? > > One possibility could be watching the source: If wchar_t (instead of > char)

Re: Ticket 2722 (Mistake on the linux console page)

2010-08-17 Thread Sebastian Plotz
Am Dienstag, den 17.08.2010, 13:37 -0600 schrieb Matthew Burgess: > In order to provide the best guidance to our audience, how would a reader > determine if a program supports UTF-8 or not? One possibility could be watching the source: If wchar_t (instead of char) is used, it is likely that the ap

Re: Ticket 2722 (Mistake on the linux console page)

2010-08-17 Thread Matthew Burgess
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 21:10:49 +0200, Sebastian Plotz wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 17.08.2010, 11:53 -0600 schrieb Matthew Burgess: > > Here is my understanding of that: > > Thanks! I think I get this now. Apart from: > If we're NOT in unicode mode (this is the default) the kernel assumes > that

Re: Ticket 2722 (Mistake on the linux console page)

2010-08-17 Thread ICMP Request
Hello! Well, compared to you guys I'm still not in the "advanced" stage of understanding Linux, so this question may sound very newbie-like, but couldn't gettext be used to translate output of programs from their charsets to unicode? On 8/17/2010 4:23 PM, Sebastian Plotz wrote: > Am Dienstag, d

Re: Ticket 2722 (Mistake on the linux console page)

2010-08-17 Thread Sebastian Plotz
Am Dienstag, den 17.08.2010, 21:10 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Plotz: > I think it can be loaded with "legacy charsets" (but only legacy keymaps > without a chaset > definition will do that). I thing that's wrong. If I didn't misunderstood the man pages of keymaps and dumpkeys, kbd will always load t

Re: Ticket 2722 (Mistake on the linux console page)

2010-08-17 Thread Sebastian Plotz
Am Dienstag, den 17.08.2010, 11:53 -0600 schrieb Matthew Burgess: > Hi all, > > The only remaining ticket for LFS-6.7 is 2722, although I'm not sure > quite what needs to be done to resolve it. That ticket points to the > kernel's unicode.txt document to show that the linux console is > always us

Ticket 2722 (Mistake on the linux console page)

2010-08-17 Thread Matthew Burgess
Hi all, The only remaining ticket for LFS-6.7 is 2722, although I'm not sure quite what needs to be done to resolve it. That ticket points to the kernel's unicode.txt document to show that the linux console is always uses unicode, but also quotes setfont(8): "If the console is in utf8 mode (see