Re: udev_retry

2011-09-16 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:46:08 +0100 Matthew Burgess > wrote: > >> So, based on the above, 5 is definitely something to look into I >> think. If that doesn't pan out, then I think option 2 is the next >> 'least worst'. > > Or you could set the time with a bootscript. Only i

Re: udev_retry

2011-09-16 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Bryan Kadzban wrote: > >> Or sysconfig, or wherever similar scripts are put in Bruce's new setup. > > Just to mention the layout, what I have is: > > /lib/services (network service scripts) > /lib/lsb(symlink to /lib/services/, init-functions) > > /etc/sysconfig

Re: udev_retry

2011-09-16 Thread Bryan Kadzban
DJ Lucas wrote: > > Bryan Kadzban wrote: > >> Although, hmm. Either way here, there's a possible problem, with >> symlinks for disk devices. If the USB ID file isn't present, then >> it's possible that the /etc/fstab entry for /usr refers to a >> symlink that relies on this file. Of course

Re: udev_retry

2011-09-16 Thread Andrew Benton
On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 19:30:58 +0100 Matthew Burgess wrote: > > And, as mentioned before, you want to run the alsactl restore stuff on > device discovery in order to support hot pluggable sound devices. If > it's done as a one-shot bootscript, manual configuration would be needed > if you plugg

Re: udev_retry

2011-09-16 Thread Matthew Burgess
On 16/09/2011 19:09, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Andrew Benton wrote: >> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:46:08 +0100 >> Matthew Burgess wrote: >> >>> So, based on the above, 5 is definitely something to look into I think. >>>If that doesn't pan out, then I think option 2 is the next 'least worst'. >>> >> >> O

Re: udev_retry

2011-09-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:46:08 +0100 > Matthew Burgess wrote: > >> So, based on the above, 5 is definitely something to look into I think. >> If that doesn't pan out, then I think option 2 is the next 'least worst'. >> > > Or you could set the time with a bootscript. Same

Re: udev_retry

2011-09-16 Thread DJ Lucas
Bryan Kadzban wrote: >Nathan Coulson wrote: >> Another thought (one I have not actually tested, forgive me if It's >> not possible) is trigger only block devices in the first pass, then >> try devices/subsystems on the 2nd pass? > >DJ Lucas wrote: >> Can we not simply re-trigger all known aff

Re: udev_retry

2011-09-16 Thread Andrew Benton
On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:46:08 +0100 Matthew Burgess wrote: > So, based on the above, 5 is definitely something to look into I think. > If that doesn't pan out, then I think option 2 is the next 'least worst'. > Or you could set the time with a bootscript. Same with alsactl restore. run them a

Re: udev_retry

2011-09-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bryan Kadzban wrote: > Or sysconfig, or wherever similar scripts are put in Bruce's new setup. Just to mention the layout, what I have is: /lib/services (network service scripts) /lib/lsb(symlink to /lib/services/, init-functions) /etc/sysconfig (All config files here, no subdirector

Re: udev_retry

2011-09-15 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Nathan Coulson wrote: > Another thought (one I have not actually tested, forgive me if It's > not possible) is trigger only block devices in the first pass, then > try devices/subsystems on the 2nd pass? DJ Lucas wrote: > Can we not simply re-trigger all known affected subsystems with a > subsys

Re: udev_retry

2011-09-15 Thread DJ Lucas
On 09/15/2011 02:38 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > References are threads starting at: > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2011-August/064960.html > http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2011-September/065130.html > > We are in a Catch-22 situation with udev_retry. Here's a rundo

Re: udev_retry

2011-09-15 Thread Nathan Coulson
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Matthew Burgess wrote: >> On 15/09/2011 20:38, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> >> >> >>> There are options about what to do right now: >>> >>> 1.  Leave in the warning message and optionally write something about it >>> in the book. >> >> We try, genera

Re: udev_retry

2011-09-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matthew Burgess wrote: > On 15/09/2011 20:38, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > > >> There are options about what to do right now: >> >> 1. Leave in the warning message and optionally write something about it >> in the book. > > We try, generally, to accomodate changes in upstream programs. I'll > defe

Re: udev_retry

2011-09-15 Thread Matthew Burgess
On 15/09/2011 20:38, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > There are options about what to do right now: > > 1. Leave in the warning message and optionally write something about it > in the book. We try, generally, to accomodate changes in upstream programs. I'll defer to upstream's views on the fact that bl

Re: udev_retry

2011-09-15 Thread Matthew Burgess
On 15/09/2011 20:38, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > There are options about what to do right now: > > 1. Leave in the warning message and optionally write something about it > in the book. We try, generally, to accomodate changes in upstream programs. I'll defer to upstream's views on the fact that bl