Re: Revisiting ideas

2008-04-30 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Dan Nicholson wrote: > Fedora is getting along fine without putting libraries in separate > subpackages. The -devel split is not really about putting headers somewhere else to save space, it's really about libraries. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lf

Re: [BLFS Trac] #2518: Xorg-7.2 libXfont

2008-04-30 Thread Randy McMurchy
DJ Lucas wrote these words on 04/30/08 01:11 CST: > Randy McMurchy wrote: >> Hopefully, everything will be simply commented out. I'd like to >> leave any unused, but still in the book, text to remain there until >> we cut this release. That way the source is a bit more preserved, >> even though it

Re: Revisiting ideas

2008-04-30 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Dan Nicholson wrote: > I certainly agree that it's best to handle situations like that, but > does RPM even support it? I.e., if I split off a libssl subpackage > that just has libssl.so.0.9.8, would RPM even allow me to install a > newer version of libssl in parallel without --force or something?

Re: Revisiting ideas

2008-04-30 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:35 AM, Alexander E. Patrakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan Nicholson wrote: > > I agree that there are major advantages to splitting the libraries out > > of the package, but why can't you just update the whole openssl > > package to get the library update? In fact,

Re: Revisiting ideas

2008-04-30 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: >> Glibc is not the best example for discussion. I requested such sample page >> for >> bash, not for glibc, for a reason: bash needs a specific patch in the RPM >> case, >> and I don't see the way to force such PM-specific instructions in t

Re: Revisiting ideas

2008-04-30 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Dan Nicholson wrote: > I agree that there are major advantages to splitting the libraries out > of the package, but why can't you just update the whole openssl > package to get the library update? In fact, the -devel split you're > talking about where the bare .so links and the headers are in a > s

Re: Revisiting ideas

2008-04-30 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:13 AM, Alexander E. Patrakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > > Hello, > > > > So I finally got a free evening and the energy to sit down and get > > conceptual. This is the result: > > http://linuxfromscratch.org/~jhuntwork/php-test/ > > > > Be

Re: Revisiting ideas

2008-04-30 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Dan Nicholson wrote: > That's awesome! My only concern with the multiple paths is with > duplicating changes. Like, you found a typo in one of the commands and > you have to change it in 4 spots. But I'd take that tradeoff here for > the gain in coolness. :) Well, that's part of the 'coolness'. Th

Re: Revisiting ideas

2008-04-30 Thread Dan Nicholson
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:51 PM, Jeremy Huntwork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > So I finally got a free evening and the energy to sit down and get > conceptual. This is the result: > http://linuxfromscratch.org/~jhuntwork/php-test/ That's awesome! My only concern with the multiple pat

Re: Revisiting ideas

2008-04-30 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > >> http://linuxfromscratch.org/~jhuntwork/php-test/ > > IMHO, too much state is kept in the PHP session. This may lead to bugs if a > reader first generates one book and then the other variant, differing in the > amount of required informa

Re: Revisiting ideas

2008-04-30 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > Glibc is not the best example for discussion. I requested such sample page > for > bash, not for glibc, for a reason: bash needs a specific patch in the RPM > case, > and I don't see the way to force such PM-specific instructions in the current > framework. I ex

Re: Revisiting ideas

2008-04-30 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > http://linuxfromscratch.org/~jhuntwork/php-test/ IMHO, too much state is kept in the PHP session. This may lead to bugs if a reader first generates one book and then the other variant, differing in the amount of required information. Something may leak between the visit

Re: Revisiting ideas

2008-04-30 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Hello, > > So I finally got a free evening and the energy to sit down and get > conceptual. This is the result: > http://linuxfromscratch.org/~jhuntwork/php-test/ > > Before replying about all that you see is wrong with it ;) keep the > following in mind: > > This is