Re: 64-bit vs 32-bit

2007-03-26 Thread list
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Bryan Kadzban wrote: >> Bryan Kadzban wrote: >>> If I remember, I'll try to transcode 10-20 minutes' worth of MPEG2 >>> video to xvid (MPEG4) on both architectures. Both tests will run >>> under the same 64-bit kernel, but one will be a 32-bit process and >>> the other will b

Re: 64-bit vs 32-bit

2007-03-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan Nicholson wrote: > On 3/26/07, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Thanks Bryan. That is a very interesting result. It's only one data >> point, but it tends to confirm other reports that I have seen that 64 >> bit processing isn't significantly faster for most tasks. >> >> If you are r

Re: 64-bit vs 32-bit

2007-03-26 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 3/26/07, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Bryan. That is a very interesting result. It's only one data > point, but it tends to confirm other reports that I have seen that 64 > bit processing isn't significantly faster for most tasks. > > If you are running a server with > 4G

Re: 64-bit vs 32-bit

2007-03-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bryan Kadzban wrote: > Bryan Kadzban wrote: >> If I remember, I'll try to transcode 10-20 minutes' worth of MPEG2 >> video to xvid (MPEG4) on both architectures. Both tests will run >> under the same 64-bit kernel, but one will be a 32-bit process and >> the other will be 64. > > OK, the test wa

Re: Tidy CVS

2007-03-26 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 3/26/07, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Notice how the names of these files coincide with many of the ones you > show. This is because those .m4 files are indeed wrong. But you can fix > them. We should probably be patching this in BLFS. Anyway, I'm adding > in-line my speex.m4 fi

Re: Tidy CVS

2007-03-26 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 3/26/07, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ./configure --prefix=/usr > make > make check > make install > make -C htmldoc install_apidocs > > http://anduin.linuxfromscratch.org/files/BLFS/sources/tidy-cvs_20070326.tar.bz2 Great. Thanks, Randy. At some future time, so long as we're p

Re: 64-bit vs 32-bit

2007-03-26 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Bryan Kadzban wrote: > If I remember, I'll try to transcode 10-20 minutes' worth of MPEG2 > video to xvid (MPEG4) on both architectures. Both tests will run > under the same 64-bit kernel, but one will be a 32-bit process and > the other will be 64. OK, the test was the following: I catted data

Re: Tidy CVS

2007-03-26 Thread Randy McMurchy
Bruce Dubbs wrote these words on 03/26/07 18:21 CST: > Nice. One suggestion though. Can you package up the app after the sh > build/gnuauto/setup.sh so it becomes a pure CMMI app? Yes, that would be simple. At the expense of a larger tarball. Is there any reason to worry about using 'all new' v

Re: Tidy CVS

2007-03-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Here's the new procedure, top to bottom: > > sh build/gnuauto/setup.sh > ./configure --prefix=/usr > make > make check > make install Nice. One suggestion though. Can you package up the app after the sh build/gnuauto/setup.sh so it becomes a pure CMMI app? -- Bruce

Re: Tidy CVS

2007-03-26 Thread Randy McMurchy
Dan Nicholson wrote these words on 03/26/07 18:13 CST: > Question: Is there any way to disable the documentation install? I > generally like having documentation, but the API docs are usually > overkill for me since I'm not planning on writing anything using the > tidy API anytime soon. Didn't th

Re: Tidy CVS

2007-03-26 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 3/26/07, Randy McMurchy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I cooked up a tarball of a CVS version of Tidy. Here's notable changes: Great. > 1. The documentation is part of the CVS download, so I created a > Makefile.am for the htmldoc directory, generated the HTML and man pages, > and generated th

Tidy CVS

2007-03-26 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, I cooked up a tarball of a CVS version of Tidy. Here's notable changes: 1. The documentation is part of the CVS download, so I created a Makefile.am for the htmldoc directory, generated the HTML and man pages, and generated the API docs. All of the docs are installed during 'make install'

Re: [new XSL] The Index generation

2007-03-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Randy McMurchy wrote: > Joe Ciccone wrote these words on 03/26/07 17:02 CST: > >> Why not both? Those who know their way around can look at the individual >> indexes but there's always the long index for those who want it. Have >> them link to eachother. >> >> Just my $0.02. > > Good thought. B

Re: [new XSL] The Index generation

2007-03-26 Thread Randy McMurchy
Joe Ciccone wrote these words on 03/26/07 17:02 CST: > Why not both? Those who know their way around can look at the individual > indexes but there's always the long index for those who want it. Have > them link to eachother. > > Just my $0.02. Good thought. But it is a helluva lot of work for

Re: [new XSL] The Index generation

2007-03-26 Thread Joe Ciccone
Randy McMurchy wrote: > > I'm sitting on the fence here. On one hand, I like the idea of > individual indexes for packages/libraries/programs/etc. because > of the reduced sizes and faster loading times. But on the other > hand I don't want to have to open up multiple indexes to find > what I'm loo

[new XSL] The Index generation

2007-03-26 Thread M.Canales.es
Hi, The generation of the Index is one of the most broken parts using the new DocBook-XSL code. That meant that that higly customized stylesheets need be full reworked. Due that it need be reworked in any case, I would take advantage of a new available feature: The possibility to create separa

Re: 64-bit vs 32-bit

2007-03-26 Thread Bryan Kadzban
On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 11:24:47AM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken, > I wasn't aware that the IA64 had additional registers. Well, IA64 != 64-bit. The IA64 architecture is 64-bit, and it does have tons more registers (something like 128 or 256, with a window of 32 or 64 visible at one time, IIR

64-bit vs 32-bit

2007-03-26 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > The thing you are ignoring is the programming model - on x86_64 the > 64-bit model means that gcc is no longer register-poor, so there is > a lot more scope for the compiler to speed up program exection. Ken, I wasn't aware that the IA64 had additional registers. I found a

Re: Remarks on LFS-6.2

2007-03-26 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Mar 25, 2007 at 09:23:39PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > Some benchmarks against a 32-bit build would be interesting. My > understanding is that 64-bit systems have larger binaries, use more ram, > and are slower the equivalent 32-bit systems unless you are doing some > fairly serious nu