The Secret Cause of Flame Wars

2006-02-13 Thread Erik Glyttov
And on the subject of "flame wars," no discussion of such would be complete without a thorough understanding of the combatants: http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/ Know thy enemy, know thyself... and remember that the "Flame Warriors" described on the site referenced above are, generally, overs

Re: The Secret Cause of Flame Wars

2006-02-13 Thread Matthew Burgess
Richard A Downing wrote: Nah, it's fat bastards that cause flame wars. And only skinny runts can fit into, and therefore don, the requisite asbestos suits, I assume? There's a danger though that those who tend to grab the popcorn or coke to enjoy the flames they see licking their computer

Re: The Secret Cause of Flame Wars

2006-02-13 Thread Richard A Downing
Jens Olav Nygaard wrote: > Jeremy Huntwork wrote: >> Dan Nicholson wrote: >> >>> On 2/13/06, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70179-0.html?tw=wn_index_2 Nah, it's fat bastards that cause flame wars. I once sent the Head of HR in my old firm a

OOo, Xorg7.0 etc etc etc

2006-02-13 Thread Alan Lord
Hi all, I just wanted to give you an update on my build success (or lack of) with the above apps. (Please see earlier threads for details of failures and fixes) My host is a very recent LFS (20060203 or similar). Xorg-7.0 was built successfully according to DJ's instructions. Firefox-1.5 was

Re: The Secret Cause of Flame Wars

2006-02-13 Thread Jens Olav Nygaard
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Dan Nicholson wrote: On 2/13/06, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70179-0.html?tw=wn_index_2 Very appropriate. I couldn't agree more with that article. It should be required reading. Yeah, that was good. Thanks Bruce.

Re: The Secret Cause of Flame Wars

2006-02-13 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Dan Nicholson wrote: On 2/13/06, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70179-0.html?tw=wn_index_2 Very appropriate. I couldn't agree more with that article. It should be required reading. Yeah, that was good. Thanks Bruce. -- JH -- http://linuxfrom

Re: Goodbye Randy [Was: Re: Trac Ticket System vs. Bugzilla]

2006-02-13 Thread Andrew Benton
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Others have been asked to leave this project before on less of an established pattern. So, I would like to ask that you leave LFS peacefully. If you do not, I will certainly be leaving, because I cannot take this continual aggravation any longer. I don't like what it is

Re: The Secret Cause of Flame Wars

2006-02-13 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 2/13/06, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70179-0.html?tw=wn_index_2 > > Very appropriate. I couldn't agree more with that article. It should be required reading. -- Dan P.S. I was being serious. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/l

The Secret Cause of Flame Wars

2006-02-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70179-0.html?tw=wn_index_2 Very appropriate. -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Version SVN-20060210 missing ncurses 5.5 fixes patch?

2006-02-13 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 2/13/06, William Harrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The user was using the stock compiler. Ikonia helped out some with it. > Pretty much just kicked FC4 out the door and moved to something > better. Does that mean you had to deviate from the book to get it to work? Does this mean you bu

Re: Version SVN-20060210 missing ncurses 5.5 fixes patch?

2006-02-13 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 2/13/06, Bruce Dubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan Nicholson wrote: > > > So, you got past gcc and binutils pass 1 on FC4? Did you have to do > > anything to get them to build? Are you using the stock compiler from > > Fedora? > > I just got through building SVN-20051223 on a FC4 system wit

Re: Version SVN-20060210 missing ncurses 5.5 fixes patch?

2006-02-13 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
William Harrington wrote: Hello all, A user mentioned having problems installing ncurses 5.5. It is has the same affect as not applying the patch. Is the patch missing from the dev book? The ChangeLog doesn't mention taking it out. Just curious if it was ever in there. ./shlib: line

Re: Version SVN-20060210 missing ncurses 5.5 fixes patch?

2006-02-13 Thread William Harrington
On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:35 AM, Dan Nicholson wrote: Maybe it's using the tic from your host system instead of the one it just built. Maybe you could peruse the ./shlib script to see what's happening. You could also try dropping --with-shared from the configure line. This is how it's done in DI

Re: Version SVN-20060210 missing ncurses 5.5 fixes patch?

2006-02-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Dan Nicholson wrote: > So, you got past gcc and binutils pass 1 on FC4? Did you have to do > anything to get them to build? Are you using the stock compiler from > Fedora? I just got through building SVN-20051223 on a FC4 system without problems. In fact, all 14 of my my students did. We did a

Re: Version SVN-20060210 missing ncurses 5.5 fixes patch?

2006-02-13 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 2/13/06, William Harrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Feb 13, 2006, at 8:28 AM, William Harrington wrote: > > > > ./shlib: line 140: 21535 Segmentation fault tic -x -s -o / > > tools/share/terminfo terminfo.tmp > > ? tic could not build /tools/share/terminfo > > make[1]:

Re: Version SVN-20060210 missing ncurses 5.5 fixes patch?

2006-02-13 Thread William Harrington
On Feb 13, 2006, at 8:28 AM, William Harrington wrote: Hello all, A user mentioned having problems installing ncurses 5.5. It is has the same affect as not applying the patch. Is the patch missing from the dev book? The ChangeLog doesn't mention taking it out. Just curious if it was

Version SVN-20060210 missing ncurses 5.5 fixes patch?

2006-02-13 Thread William Harrington
Hello all, A user mentioned having problems installing ncurses 5.5. It is has the same affect as not applying the patch. Is the patch missing from the dev book? The ChangeLog doesn't mention taking it out. Just curious if it was ever in there. ./shlib: line 140: 21535 Segmentation fau

Re: Trac Ticket System vs. Bugzilla

2006-02-13 Thread Thomas Pegg
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: For example: "a) I liked the field in BZ that was available for a relevant URL." You liked it. Great. Wonderful. So what? Now in Trac you can include a link *anywhere* and it is dynamic. Especially when you include them in your opening remarks is it powerful. No major

Re: Goodbye Randy [Was: Re: Trac Ticket System vs. Bugzilla]

2006-02-13 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Richard A Downing wrote: Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Randy McMurchy wrote: stuff. I don't normally like quoting scripture here but these are serious times: Matthew 18:21 Point taken. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubsc

Re: Goodbye Randy [Was: Re: Trac Ticket System vs. Bugzilla]

2006-02-13 Thread Richard A Downing
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Randy McMurchy wrote: stuff. I don't normally like quoting scripture here but these are serious times: Matthew 18:21 Richard. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Trac Ticket System vs. Bugzilla

2006-02-13 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: Justin R. Knierim wrote these words on 02/12/06 22:54 CST: This is unacceptable to not even give an answer to a legitimate issue. Instead, a flaming starts. And I did not start it. The archives will show this. No, the archives will show that you asked several questions whi

Re: Goodbye Randy [Was: Re: Trac Ticket System vs. Bugzilla]

2006-02-13 Thread Ag Hatzim
Ops. Forgive me,to reply to myself here,but i think our life despairingly needs little clowns like me so feel free to treat me like this (not that i care much actually). There is a major bug in my previous mail (i targeted the wrong will's spot). My invisible master Don Carlos most probably will k

Re: Goodbye Randy [Was: Re: Trac Ticket System vs. Bugzilla]

2006-02-13 Thread Ag Hatzim
Jeremy Huntwork([EMAIL PROTECTED])@Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 11:48:07PM -0500: Hi Jeremy. Hi Randy. I wrote it once and i will write it again. I hate when people leave. Jeremy I will miss Randy. Randy I will miss Jeremy. Some(rare)times i wished to have a magic stick to go back in time,and to change