Re: Handling the change from the temp phase to the final target phase

2005-05-13 Thread Jim Gifford
Archaic wrote: In an attempt to get this info both archived, and presented to the larger community, I am writing up a synopsis of ideas that have been floating around on IRC as to how to handle the chroot/reboot phase of the cross-lfs book. I will list them and give a brief pro/con for each as I un

Re: Handling the change from the temp phase to the final target phase

2005-05-13 Thread Archaic
On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 02:31:22AM +0200, M.Canales.es wrote: > > If the target host (remote or local) is a machine running linux, wy not to do > the full construction from the begin directly at the target machine? In that > case HOST=TARGET due that both are the target machine. That is what I

Re: Handling the change from the temp phase to the final target phase

2005-05-13 Thread M.Canales.es
El Sábado, 14 de Mayo de 2005 01:42, Archaic escribió: > Ideas? Comments? Suggestion? We need your input. Multiple perspectives > ultimately make for a better book. The above is merely my perspective > and likely does not cover all aspects needed to make a good decision. There is some aspects tha

Re: Typos and Phrasing -- Request

2005-05-13 Thread Archaic
On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 01:13:31AM +0200, M.Canales.es wrote: > > Revising the webcvs I noticed that the historial is already loss in the > cross-lfs branch due the big changes in the book structure. That can be folded back in. For instance, every file that is in the same location within the boo

Handling the change from the temp phase to the final target phase

2005-05-13 Thread Archaic
In an attempt to get this info both archived, and presented to the larger community, I am writing up a synopsis of ideas that have been floating around on IRC as to how to handle the chroot/reboot phase of the cross-lfs book. I will list them and give a brief pro/con for each as I understand it. 1

Re: Typos and Phrasing -- Request

2005-05-13 Thread M.Canales.es
El Sábado, 14 de Mayo de 2005 00:16, Archaic escribió: > As we discussed on IRC, it can still be done without any historical > loss, but it will require a lot of manual fiddling. However, as this is > a one time thing, I think we'd be shooting ourselves in the foot > researching a way to automate

Re: Use of Variables in Cross-LFS

2005-05-13 Thread Archaic
On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 10:18:49AM -0400, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > > But does this obscure information from the reader? Not if properly explained in the beginning. Note that --prefix=/usr isn't explained everytime, so the value of host, target, flags, whatever needn't be explained everytime. And

Re: Useless note on Ch5 glibc page

2005-05-13 Thread Archaic
On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 02:46:09PM +0600, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > > 2) Pass --disable-nls to binutils in Chapter 5 in order to avoid > dependency on gettext. Yes this has allowed me to build testing with testing with testing (3 layers deep) with no problems. I use --disable-nls on every p

Re: Typos and Phrasing -- Request

2005-05-13 Thread Archaic
On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 03:24:46PM -0700, Jim Gifford wrote: > > Tried that via svk, bombed everytime. I talked to the on > irc.freenode.net #svn, they said if the structure was the same it > wouldn't be an issue, but we made a lot of changes to lfs to multi-arch > and multi-arch to cross-lfs.

Re: Use of Variables in Cross-LFS

2005-05-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 13 May 2005, Jim Gifford wrote: > Ken that's one of the things we are going to do after we get the builds > working is go through every page and add more text or less text to give > the reader a better understanding. We would welcome your input on this. > I'll be happy to contribute, but

Re: Use of Variables in Cross-LFS

2005-05-13 Thread Jim Gifford
Ken that's one of the things we are going to do after we get the builds working is go through every page and add more text or less text to give the reader a better understanding. We would welcome your input on this. -- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] LFS User # 2577 Registered Linux U

Re: Use of Variables in Cross-LFS

2005-05-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 13 May 2005, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > Ken Moffat wrote: > > In my opinion, put it all in variables - the sparc page has '-m32' > > exposed to the reader without an explanation (although it might be > > explained on another page). Put it all in variables, and explain them > > at the begin

Re: 6.1 release ?

2005-05-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 13 May 2005, Matthew Burgess wrote: > > We'll be breaking the unwritten 'rule' of not bumping version numbers on > packages during our 'slushy' RCish period, due to security issues in the > kernel (which will be bumped to 2.6.11.9) and a bug in the bootscripts > which caused network interf

Integrating patches and blfs

2005-05-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I've been working on the integration of the BLFS patches into the patches project. Right now I've created a script (below) that can run on belgarath and identify patches in blfs and not in the patches project download directory. There are a couple of approaches I can take and one problem. First

Re: 6.1 release ?

2005-05-13 Thread Matthew Burgess
Ken Moffat wrote: I see testing is moving on - did the 6.1 release get pulled ? Nope, not pulled, just delayed whilst things went slightly manic at work and at home. I think things are settling down now, so managed to get a bit of work done catching up on the outstanding 6.1 items last night.

Re: Use of Variables in Cross-LFS

2005-05-13 Thread Jim Gifford
Ken Moffat wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2005, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: One nit-pick: you are using LFS_TARGET and LFS_HOST, why not just TARGET and HOST ? This one was done by me, there was a report of a distro having TARGET and HOST set, I know we could just override these variables. But I decided t

Re: Use of Variables in Cross-LFS

2005-05-13 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Ken Moffat wrote: In my opinion, put it all in variables - the sparc page has '-m32' exposed to the reader without an explanation (although it might be explained on another page). Put it all in variables, and explain them at the beginning, then just use them. The explanatory text for the cross-lf

Re: Use of Variables in Cross-LFS

2005-05-13 Thread Ken Moffat
On Fri, 13 May 2005, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > > Notice the use of $(BUILD32) in the x86_64 book that would contain (at > least) the -m32 tag appended to the CC variable. It was thought that if > we could have the user define the gcc tags needed to build for 32 or 64 > in the book for each arch, we

Use of Variables in Cross-LFS

2005-05-13 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hi all, I wanted to hear your opinions about how we present commands in the cross-lfs book. When we first started writing the book, we decided it would be easier to use variables for the target triplets to be used throughout the cross-tools and temp-system section. Something like this: LFS_HOST

6.1 release ?

2005-05-13 Thread Ken Moffat
I see testing is moving on - did the 6.1 release get pulled ? Ken -- das eine Mal als Tragödie, das andere Mal als Farce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: sysctl script at S90?

2005-05-13 Thread Nathan Coulson
Lets file a bug for now, I wanted to leave the lfs-bootscript tree alone until the next LFS release. -- Nathan Coulson (conathan) -- nathan at linuxfromscratch org conathan at gmail com -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscri

Useless note on Ch5 glibc page

2005-05-13 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Glibc page in Chapter 5 contains the following paragraph: During this stage the following warning might appear: configure: WARNING: *** These auxiliary programs are missing or *** incompatible versions: msgfmt *** some features will be disabled. *** Check the INSTALL file for required versions.