Re: Learning javascript

2012-02-23 Thread Ville M. Vainio
Also, if you want to use javascript and deploying in native gui environment, QML is a great playgroud. E.g. PyQt can embed a declarative view, so the leo environment may contain windows showing QML content (I have platted implementing an advanced search dashboard (like Nav tab, but with full windo

Re: Learning javascript

2012-02-23 Thread ne1uno
On Feb 21, 11:13 am, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > I've got to learn javascript in order to read the MooTools sources :-) > > Some first steps. > > The MooTools sources are minimized, but not obfuscated.  Googling for > "reformat JavaScript" took me to: > > http://jsbeautifier.org/ > [..] > > I'm sti

Re: Learning javascript

2012-02-21 Thread HansBKK
I don't know about from a "programming elegance" POV but from an enduser functionality one, check out Tiddlywiki as a good example of javascript functionality. IMO the developer community got a bit sidetracked with many experiments in server-side storage etc, so the mainline "everything in one

Re: Learning javascript

2012-02-21 Thread Ville M. Vainio
I tend to think that js is a horrible language if you are coming from the structured, neat world of python. CoffeeScript fixes this problem. On Feb 21, 2012 5:33 PM, "Zoom.Quiet" wrote: > 2012/2/21 Edward K. Ream : > > I've got to learn javascript in order to read the MooTools sources :-) > > >

Re: Learning javascript

2012-02-21 Thread Kent Tenney
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > On Feb 21, 10:51 am, Kent Tenney wrote: >> MooTools vidhttp://www.youtube.com/watch&v=6nOVQDMOvvE This is old, very web-centric >> >> Crockford: Javascript the good >> partshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQVTIJBZook Timeless > > Now t

Re: Learning javascript

2012-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Feb 21, 10:51 am, Kent Tenney wrote: > MooTools vidhttp://www.youtube.com/watch&v=6nOVQDMOvvE > > Crockford: Javascript the good partshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQVTIJBZook Now that Downton Abbey is finished for this year I know what kinds of vids I'll be watching in the evenings. Edward

Re: Learning javascript

2012-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Feb 21, 10:50 am, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > On Feb 21, 9:23 am, "Ville M. Vainio" wrote: > > > I know you have a reason to learn javascript in particular, but I > > recommend looking at CoffeeScript as well. It's the better javascript > > Thanks, I will. A better JavaScript syntax. Totally

Re: Learning javascript

2012-02-21 Thread Kent Tenney
m : >> >> > I've got to learn javascript in order to read the MooTools sources :-) >> >> - life with learning, forever ;-) > > Thanks to you and Terry for all these suggestions. > > Before I lose the link, I found a good learning javascript on this

Re: Learning javascript

2012-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Feb 21, 9:23 am, "Ville M. Vainio" wrote: > I know you have a reason to learn javascript in particular, but I > recommend looking at CoffeeScript as well. It's the better javascript Thanks, I will. And what about Qt? Doesn't it have animation capabilities? EKR -- You received this message

Re: Learning javascript

2012-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Feb 21, 9:33 am, "Zoom.Quiet" wrote: > 2012/2/21 Edward K. Ream : > > > I've got to learn javascript in order to read the MooTools sources :-) > > - life with learning, forever ;-) Thanks to you and Terry for all these suggestions. Before I lose the link, I

Re: Learning javascript

2012-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Feb 21, 10:16 am, Terry Brown wrote: > Surely the MooTools source in available in non-minimized form Yes. I foolishly grabbed some MooTools distro, rather than the commented sources. Now I'm studying the "real" sources. EKR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: Learning javascript

2012-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Feb 21, 9:13 am, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > 2. Assign the return value of an anonymous function to your namespace > object:... > Note the very last line with the closing curly brace and then the > parentheses (). Another *visual* pattern in the MooTools sources is that quite a bit of the "cod

Re: Learning javascript

2012-02-21 Thread Terry Brown
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:33:00 +0800 "Zoom.Quiet" wrote: > 2012/2/21 Edward K. Ream : > > I've got to learn javascript in order to read the MooTools sources :-) > > > > - life with leanning, forever ;-) > - for javascript > - if for Ajax, jQuery is funny and feel good than mootools > - f

Re: Learning javascript

2012-02-21 Thread Zoom.Quiet
2012/2/21 Edward K. Ream : > I've got to learn javascript in order to read the MooTools sources :-) > - life with leanning, forever ;-) - for javascript - if for Ajax, jQuery is funny and feel good than mootools - for web dev. node.js is power with coffeescript ;-) and js is realy beau

Re: Learning javascript

2012-02-21 Thread Ville M. Vainio
I know you have a reason to learn javascript in particular, but I recommend looking at CoffeeScript as well. It's the better javascript :). On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > I've got to learn javascript in order to read the MooTools sources :-) > > Some first steps. > > The

Learning javascript

2012-02-21 Thread Edward K. Ream
I've got to learn javascript in order to read the MooTools sources :-) Some first steps. The MooTools sources are minimized, but not obfuscated. Googling for "reformat JavaScript" took me to: http://jsbeautifier.org/ I imported the result into Leo. The importer needs more than a tad of work,