Re: [LEDE-DEV] A request not making IRC necessary to be part of the action

2016-05-17 Thread Daniel Curran-Dickinson
On 16-05-18 12:52 AM, John Crispin wrote: > > >> I was told in the past by one of founding LEDE team members (who shall >> rename nameless unless he chooses to comment himself), that if I really >> wanted to participate in OpenWrt community that I needed to be on IRC >> (in a private mail to me).

Re: [LEDE-DEV] A request not making IRC necessary to be part of the action

2016-05-17 Thread John Crispin
On 18/05/2016 03:10, Daniel Curran-Dickinson wrote: > On 16-05-17 05:22 AM, John Crispin wrote: >> well that is status quo, IRC is used to discuss real time stuff and give >> user support. >> >> all other stuff is on the list. meetings being the only thing still on >> IRC due to lack of better op

Re: [LEDE-DEV] A request not making IRC necessary to be part of the action

2016-05-17 Thread Daniel Curran-Dickinson
On 16-05-17 05:22 AM, John Crispin wrote: > well that is status quo, IRC is used to discuss real time stuff and give > user support. > > all other stuff is on the list. meetings being the only thing still on > IRC due to lack of better options right now. meetings are however held > late during EU

Re: [LEDE-DEV] A request not making IRC necessary to be part of the action

2016-05-17 Thread Fernando Frediani
Fully agree. Fernando On 17 May 2016 at 06:02, Bruno Randolf wrote: > On 17/05/16 09:46, andrew wrote: >> How about something like rocket.chat or one of the opensource self >> hosted alternatives? > > Don't get me wrong, the problem is not IRC itself, there are definetly > good uses for it. I'm

Re: [LEDE-DEV] A request not making IRC necessary to be part of the action

2016-05-17 Thread John Crispin
On 17/05/2016 11:02, Bruno Randolf wrote: > On 17/05/16 09:46, andrew wrote: >> How about something like rocket.chat or one of the opensource self >> hosted alternatives? > > Don't get me wrong, the problem is not IRC itself, there are definetly > good uses for it. I'm NOT saying people should n

Re: [LEDE-DEV] A request not making IRC necessary to be part of the action

2016-05-17 Thread Bruno Randolf
On 17/05/16 09:46, andrew wrote: > How about something like rocket.chat or one of the opensource self > hosted alternatives? Don't get me wrong, the problem is not IRC itself, there are definetly good uses for it. I'm NOT saying people should not use IRC to coordinate. My point is: hanging out (as

Re: [LEDE-DEV] A request not making IRC necessary to be part of the action

2016-05-17 Thread andrew
How about something like rocket.chat or one of the opensource self hosted alternatives? On Mon, 2016-05-16 at 17:29 -0400, Daniel Curran-Dickinson wrote: > On 16-05-16 05:18 PM, Daniel Curran-Dickinson wrote: > > > > The objective is so that you don't have isolated pools of TZ's > > where one > >

Re: [LEDE-DEV] A request not making IRC necessary to be part of the action

2016-05-16 Thread Ben Greear
On 05/16/2016 03:42 PM, Aaron Z wrote: On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Ben Greear wrote: Maybe get an IRC bot to dump irc logs to the mailing list every few hours? Might be a bit spammy though IMO, trying to follow IRC when its not realtime (ie: reading a log) makes it somewhat difficult

Re: [LEDE-DEV] A request not making IRC necessary to be part of the action

2016-05-16 Thread Aaron Z
On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Ben Greear wrote: > Maybe get an IRC bot to dump irc logs to the mailing list every few > hours? Might be a bit spammy though IMO, trying to follow IRC when its not realtime (ie: reading a log) makes it somewhat difficult to follow threads of conversations (wh

Re: [LEDE-DEV] A request not making IRC necessary to be part of the action

2016-05-16 Thread Ben Greear
Maybe get an IRC bot to dump irc logs to the mailing list every few hours? Might be a bit spammy though Ben On 05/16/2016 12:08 PM, Dave Taht wrote: znc and bitlbee are godsends when using irc asynchronously. In particular I feed all irc convos into bitlbee and then into erc on emacs (so

Re: [LEDE-DEV] A request not making IRC necessary to be part of the action

2016-05-16 Thread Daniel Curran-Dickinson
On 16-05-16 05:18 PM, Daniel Curran-Dickinson wrote: > The objective is so that you don't have isolated pools of TZ's where one > TZ has little insight into what the other TZ is doing and has no *good* > mechanisms for communicating across timezones. > > Reading IRC chat logs is an exercise is pai

Re: [LEDE-DEV] A request not making IRC necessary to be part of the action

2016-05-16 Thread Daniel Curran-Dickinson
On 16-05-16 03:29 PM, John Crispin wrote: > > the voting does not effect the actual coding work. it more relates to > infrastructure, political and release related decisions. i think we are > talking about the day 2 day interaction here. > > what i dont get is how emails vs irc would resolve the

Re: [LEDE-DEV] A request not making IRC necessary to be part of the action

2016-05-16 Thread John Crispin
On 16/05/2016 21:25, Felix Fietkau wrote: > On 2016-05-16 21:14, Bruno Randolf wrote: >> On 16/05/16 20:08, Dave Taht wrote: >>> znc and bitlbee are godsends when using irc asynchronously. >>> >>> In particular I feed all irc convos into bitlbee and then into erc on >>> emacs (so I am not hurt wh

Re: [LEDE-DEV] A request not making IRC necessary to be part of the action

2016-05-16 Thread Felix Fietkau
On 2016-05-16 21:14, Bruno Randolf wrote: > On 16/05/16 20:08, Dave Taht wrote: >> znc and bitlbee are godsends when using irc asynchronously. >> >> In particular I feed all irc convos into bitlbee and then into erc on >> emacs (so I am not hurt when my connection goes away). > > Well, thanks for

Re: [LEDE-DEV] A request not making IRC necessary to be part of the action

2016-05-16 Thread Bruno Randolf
On 16/05/16 20:08, Dave Taht wrote: > znc and bitlbee are godsends when using irc asynchronously. > > In particular I feed all irc convos into bitlbee and then into erc on > emacs (so I am not hurt when my connection goes away). Well, thanks for the hints, but please just accept the fact that IRC

Re: [LEDE-DEV] A request not making IRC necessary to be part of the action

2016-05-16 Thread Dave Taht
znc and bitlbee are godsends when using irc asynchronously. In particular I feed all irc convos into bitlbee and then into erc on emacs (so I am not hurt when my connection goes away). On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 5:00 AM, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Mon, 2016-05-16 at 12:46 +0100, Bruno Randolf wr

Re: [LEDE-DEV] A request not making IRC necessary to be part of the action

2016-05-16 Thread David Woodhouse
On Mon, 2016-05-16 at 12:46 +0100, Bruno Randolf wrote: > On 15/05/16 05:53, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > > > > I'd really appreciate if we could actually use the mailing list for the > > main communications venue rather than shutting out people not in the > > European timezones, which is what happen

Re: [LEDE-DEV] A request not making IRC necessary to be part of the action

2016-05-16 Thread Bruno Randolf
On 15/05/16 05:53, Daniel Dickinson wrote: > I'd really appreciate if we could actually use the mailing list for the > main communications venue rather than shutting out people not in the > European timezones, which is what happens if IRC is the main way to > participate in the community. > > I ha