Re: [Lazarus] External/out-of-tree LCL widgetset

2017-11-30 Thread Martin Schreiber via Lazarus
On Friday 01 December 2017 08:01:06 Graeme Geldenhuys via Lazarus wrote: > On 2017-12-01 06:42, Martin Schreiber via Lazarus wrote: > > That is your opinion, my opinion is that RAD is the most productive > > development technology for most of the projects if done right, > > And your last 3 words is

Re: [Lazarus] External/out-of-tree LCL widgetset

2017-11-30 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys via Lazarus
On 2017-12-01 06:42, Martin Schreiber via Lazarus wrote: That is your opinion, my opinion is that RAD is the most productive development technology for most of the projects if done right, And your last 3 words is the most important part - "if done right". In my 20+ years of using Delphi, I can

Re: [Lazarus] External/out-of-tree LCL widgetset

2017-11-30 Thread Martin Schreiber via Lazarus
On Friday 01 December 2017 00:30:05 Graeme Geldenhuys via Lazarus wrote: > On 2017-11-30 11:46, Michael Schnell via Lazarus wrote: > > Nonetheless, IMHO RAD is a great way to start programming, as you > > immediately and painlessly can see (visualize) what your "business > > RAD should only be used

Re: [Lazarus] External/out-of-tree LCL widgetset

2017-11-30 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys via Lazarus
On 2017-11-30 11:46, Michael Schnell via Lazarus wrote: Nonetheless, IMHO RAD is a great way to start programming, as you immediately and painlessly can see (visualize) what your "business RAD should only be used for prototyping. ie: once the prototype is done and not needed, bin the code. And

Re: [Lazarus] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread Juha Manninen via Lazarus
Thanks FPC developers for the release! Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus-ide.org https://lists.lazarus-ide.org/listinfo/lazarus

[Lazarus] Mantis patch "Mouse-wheel-horz-scroll support"

2017-11-30 Thread Alexey via Lazarus
https://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=32753 1. It is tested on Gtk2 and Win32. Gtk1 is not tested [but code is copy pasted, 4..5 values for vert scroll - copied block with 6..7 values for horz scroll, 6..7 is from gtk doc]. 2. Maybe change issue section to "Patches" 3. you applied micro pa

[Lazarus] Fixed: KControls - Re: Need to use this fix in 1.8

2017-11-30 Thread kardan via Lazarus
Thanks for looking into this! On Thu, 30 Nov 2017 12:52:38 +0100 Mattias Gaertner via Lazarus wrote: > On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 21:26:21 +0100 > kardan via Lazarus wrote: > > > With current https://bitbucket.org/tkweb/kcontrols/get/tip.zip our > > project https://github.com/tomboy-notes/tomboy-ng f

Re: [Lazarus] Mouse horiz scroll support

2017-11-30 Thread Mattias Gaertner via Lazarus
On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 16:53:15 +0300 Alexey via Lazarus wrote: > LCL don't support it. > Pls apply this diff- only constant LM_MouseHWHeel > > https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms645614(v=vs.85).aspx I added it. Mattias -- ___ L

Re: [Lazarus] Need to use this fix in 1.8

2017-11-30 Thread Mattias Gaertner via Lazarus
On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 21:26:21 +0100 kardan via Lazarus wrote: > On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 22:53:36 +0300 > Alexey via Lazarus wrote: > > > https://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=32717 > > > > Otherwise, this dialog is not scaled. > > Is there a chance to make Lazarus 1.8 build natively with KCont

Re: [Lazarus] External/out-of-tree LCL widgetset

2017-11-30 Thread Michael Schnell via Lazarus
On 30.11.2017 12:09, el es via Lazarus wrote: It is not easy to break free from old, ... programming practices Nonetheless, IMHO RAD is a great way to start programming, as you immediately and painlessly can see (visualize) what your "business logic" software does and easily set parameters an

Re: [Lazarus] External/out-of-tree LCL widgetset

2017-11-30 Thread el es via Lazarus
On 29/11/17 23:02, Graeme Geldenhuys via Lazarus wrote: > On 2017-11-28 09:02, Michael Schnell via Lazarus wrote: >> and support for Delphi-typical RAD-style development. > > RAD style development is highly overrated - I wish you can see the > mess I'm looking at (not my code). Each form are 1000

Re: [Lazarus] Cross-compiling to win32 from debian stretch

2017-11-30 Thread Mattias Gaertner via Lazarus
On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 20:21:47 +0100 kardan via Lazarus wrote: > Hi, > > summary: my fpc and ppcross* have different versions, because I can't > build fpc with the installed version. Why does this happen: > > ~/src/fpc(master)$ make all > Makefile:2918: *** The only supported starting compiler ve

[Lazarus] FPC 3.0.4 released!

2017-11-30 Thread Marco van de Voort via Lazarus
Hello, Finally, the Free Pascal 3.0.4 release is available from our FTP servers. Changes that may break backwards compatibility will be documented at: http://wiki.freepascal.org/User_Changes_3_0_4 For Downloads, please use the FTP server at ftp://freepascal.stack.nl/pub/fpc/dist/3.0.4/ and sou

Re: [Lazarus] Cross-compiling to win32 from debian stretch

2017-11-30 Thread kardan via Lazarus
Hi, it looks like I need to train my patience a bit more. On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 20:21:47 +0100 kardan via Lazarus wrote: > summary: my fpc and ppcross* have different versions, because I can't > build fpc with the installed version. Why does this happen: > > ~/src/fpc(master)$ make all > Makefil

Re: [Lazarus] External/out-of-tree LCL widgetset

2017-11-30 Thread Michael Schnell via Lazarus
On 30.11.2017 10:04, Michael Schnell via Lazarus wrote: e.g. a small embedded device or to allow running them as a service.. Of course another important "headless environment" is server applications with built-in Web server or sitting behind a standard WebServer. -Michael --

Re: [Lazarus] External/out-of-tree LCL widgetset

2017-11-30 Thread Michael Schnell via Lazarus
On 30.11.2017 00:02, Graeme Geldenhuys via Lazarus wrote: RAD style development is highly overrated... I do know that very exactly, been there often enough. RAD is great to create "small" applications, but with huge projects, you will very likely hit a limit where you wish you would not have