Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [BUG] Fomula SYD description

2013-07-21 Thread Krunoslav Šebetić
On 07/20/2013 06:31 PM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: Personally, I favor precise and hermetic language. People who need certain information will understand; people who don't, they don't care. That's elitism and is wrong, really wrong. Precision doesn't mean it has to be hermetic. People how know,

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [BUG] Fomula SYD description

2013-07-21 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I have encouraged a few native-English speakers to join this list with the aim of 1.  translating from geek or 2.  smoothing out clunky English phrases that look like translations from other languages However, since they joined there have been no further requests for individual strings

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Errors in help pages

2013-07-21 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  For the non-geeks, stripping out the coding gives us Insert mode is enabled. The text cursor is a blinking vertical line. Click on the area to enable the overwrite mode. Insert mode is enabled. When in Writer The text cursor is a blinking vertical line. Click on the area to enable t

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description

2013-07-21 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Sorry i am not completely clear about 2 crucial things 1.  What is the string as is?  2.  What is the suggested alternative? I couldn't find the Oasis definitions and i loathe looking through MS Office anything.  The link given seems to be specifically about healthcare but may not have be

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description

2013-07-21 Thread Sérgio Marques
2013/7/21 Tom Davies > Hi :) > Sorry i am not completely clear about 2 crucial things > 1. What is the string as is? > Returns the actuarial rate of interest of an investment excluding costs or profits > 2. What is the suggested alternative? > Compute the internal rate of return for a serie

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [BUG] Fomula SYD description

2013-07-21 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 21/07/2013 at 10:26, Krunoslav Šebetić wrote: > Precision doesn't mean it has to be hermetic. People how know, don't > need help. Don't you find contradictory to write _help_ in hermetic > language? Yes, no and no. First thing: by "hermetic" I mean "understood by people with some preliminary

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [BUG] Fomula SYD description

2013-07-21 Thread Yury Tarasievich
But what about providing some clues in the help for those who know what they want but are unacquainted with the developing system in the first place? Your approach leaves too high entry threshold. Continuing with the Calc functions, I might know what statistical distributions are but to find

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description

2013-07-21 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Thanks :)  I think Computes the internal rate of return for a series of cash flows is a minor improvement on the 2nd one.  Neither make any sense to me but some background reading about the topic made it clear i would never understand enough to get a short simple sentence.  The 2nd one s

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [BUG] Fomula SYD description

2013-07-21 Thread Mihovil Stanic
Well, I gave you few. :) To find more I would have to proof read all calc formulas and I'm not really sure I want to do that. I see a lot of errors of cosmetical type in Calc, which I'm notreporting. Things like consistency.In some formulas you have nper/ npery / NPER / NPERY , some strings s

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description

2013-07-21 Thread Sérgio Marques
Hi Tom Best to see for yourself what IRR is. http://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/irr.asp 2013/7/21 Tom Davies > Hi :) > Thanks :) I think > > Computes the internal rate of return for a series of cash flows > > is a minor improvement on the 2nd one. Neither make any sense to me but > some b

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Errors in help pages

2013-07-21 Thread Sérgio Marques
2013/7/21 Tom Davies > > > Hi :) > For the non-geeks, stripping out the coding gives us > > Insert mode is enabled. > The text cursor is a blinking vertical line. > Click on the area to enable the overwrite mode. > > Insert mode is enabled. When in Writer > The text cursor is a blinking vertical

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Errors in help pages

2013-07-21 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1  The "When in Writer" should be taken out of that 2nd and 4th examples.  I just quickly tested in all the apps except Base and it works the same in all of them.  In Calc you only notice it if the cursor is in the formula-bar / function-bar, whatever you call that big 'white' field at

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Errors in help pages

2013-07-21 Thread Sérgio Marques
2013/7/21 Tom Davies > Hi :) > +1 > The "When in Writer" should be taken out of that 2nd and 4th examples. > Or be added. > > I just quickly tested in all the apps except Base and it works the same in > all of them. In Calc you only notice it if the cursor is in the > formula-bar / function-b

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Errors in help pages

2013-07-21 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Thanks, Sérgio, here we go: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67148 Lp, m. >> 2013/7/21 Sérgio Marques : > Please check: > > https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Switching_Between_Insert_Mode_and_Overwrite_Mode/sv > > https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Switching_Between_Insert_Mode_a

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Errors in help pages

2013-07-21 Thread Sérgio Marques
2013/7/21 Martin Srebotnjak > 2013/7/21 Sérgio Marques : > > > My problem with this string is that "Where in Writer" does not appear for > > translation. But it´s also true that "the area" is unclear. > > Yeah, does that mean that string in English appears also on other > wiki-help pages, like in

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Errors in help pages

2013-07-21 Thread Sérgio Marques
Thanks for the report. Regards 2013/7/21 Martin Srebotnjak > Thanks, Sérgio, > > here we go: > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67148 > > Lp, m. > > > >> 2013/7/21 Sérgio Marques : > > Please check: > > > > > https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Switching_Between_Insert_Mode_and_Over

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Errors in help pages

2013-07-21 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Tom, *, On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Tom Davies wrote: > [...] > The overwrite mode is enabled. When in > Wrtiter The text cursor is a blinking block. > Click on the area to enable insert mode. > > > I think even after correcting 'obvious' typos the paragraphs are still > unclear. What

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Errors in help pages

2013-07-21 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Thanks !  Good plan ! :) Now that i have found it i can't think of any better name than "the area"!  I was hoping that some inspiration would leap out at me if i ever found the area but it didn't.  Anyway i think i took this thread waaay off-topic and i am glad to see a few people have ma

[libreoffice-l10n] CRITBINOM function description is wrong

2013-07-21 Thread Sérgio Marques
File: scalc/01.po Context: 04060183.xhp par_id3149254 49 help.txt Comments: yXdFy Returns the smallest value for which the cumulative binomial distribution is less than or equal to a criterion value. Should be: Returns the smallest value for which the cumulative binomial distribution is greater

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] CRITBINOM function description is wrong

2013-07-21 Thread Mihovil Stanic
Nice catch. Oasis says it's "greater then" http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-v1.2-os-part2.html#CRITBINOM MS Office says "less then" in function title description http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/excel-help/excel-functions-by-category-HA102752955.aspx?CTT=1 and then it says