[libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] added possessive genitive case month names, HEADS UP localizers ;-)

2011-11-19 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi, some Slavic languages and Russian and Greek (afaik) use possessive genitive case month names when used in conjunction with the day of month. For this I added support in the i18n framework and number formatter. There's a new optional element within the element of the i18npool/source/localedat

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] added possessive genitive case month names, HEADS UP localizers ;-)

2011-11-19 Thread Michael Bauer
That's great Eike. Just a minor point, perhaps in might make sense to change "gentive" to "inflected" or something as I don't think every language requires the same case. Gaelic requires the partitive for instance and there are probably others. Not that it matters that much what we're calling i

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Confusion with helplines in 3.5

2011-11-19 Thread Mihkel Tõnnov
2011/10/22 Andras Timar > 2011.10.22. 15:06 keltezéssel, Rūdolfs Mazurs írta: > > S , 2011-10-22 13:12 +0200, Andras Timar rakstīja: >> >>> Helpline was guide. See the commits: >>> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/log/?qt=grep&q=Unify >>> +Display+Grid >>> http://cgit.freedesktop.org

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] added possessive genitive case month names, HEADS UP localizers ;-)

2011-11-19 Thread Mihkel Tõnnov
2011/11/19 Eike Rathke > Hi, > > some Slavic languages and Russian and Greek (afaik) use possessive > genitive case month names when used in conjunction with the day of > month. For this I added support in the i18n framework and number > formatter. There's a new optional element within the > el

[libreoffice-l10n] The new "Format $1..." / "Delete $1..." commands in 3.5

2011-11-19 Thread Mihkel Tõnnov
Hi *, The 3.5 branch introduced new strings to format and delete header/footer ("Format $1..." and "Delete $1..." -- _XDs and wAFn, respectively), but these are coded in a way that the end result looks weird/wrong for languages which don't use Title Case as much as English ($1 is pulled from separa

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] added possessive genitive case month names, HEADS UP localizers ; -)

2011-11-19 Thread Harri Pitkänen
On Saturday 19 November 2011, Mihkel Tõnnov wrote: > 2011/11/19 Eike Rathke > > In a recent build you can check use of month noun versus possessive > > month in the number formatter if you compiled your new locale data with > > a make in i18npool (note: execute make twice to be sure the new data i

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] added possessive genitive case month names, HEADS UP localizers ; -)

2011-11-19 Thread Joan Montané
El 19 de novembre de 2011 21:12, Harri Pitkänen ha escrit: > On Saturday 19 November 2011, Mihkel Tõnnov wrote: > > 2011/11/19 Eike Rathke > > > In a recent build you can check use of month noun versus possessive > > > month in the number formatter if you compiled your new locale data with > > >

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] The new "Format $1..." / "Delete $1..." commands in 3.5

2011-11-19 Thread Andras Timar
Hi Mihkel, 2011/11/19 Mihkel Tõnnov : > Hi *, > The 3.5 branch introduced new strings to format and delete header/footer > ("Format $1..." and "Delete $1..." -- _XDs and wAFn, respectively), but > these are coded in a way that the end result looks weird/wrong for > languages which don't use Title

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Best way to create new help entries

2011-11-19 Thread Olivier Hallot
Hi Andras Em 17-11-2011 09:05, Andras Timar escreveu: Hi, 2011/11/17 Alexander Thurgood: Hi all, I have an itch to scratch in the Base help (which I find totally lacking, but hey, just my opinion) and so I've been thinking about the best way to improve it : (1) hack the XHP files directly an

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Best way to create new help entries

2011-11-19 Thread Andras Timar
Hi Olivier, 2011/11/19 Olivier Hallot : > Hi Andras > > Em 17-11-2011 09:05, Andras Timar escreveu: >> >> Hi, >> >> 2011/11/17 Alexander Thurgood: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I have an itch to scratch in the Base help (which I find totally >>> lacking, but hey, just my opinion) and so I've been thinki

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Best way to create new help entries

2011-11-19 Thread Olivier Hallot
Hi Andras Em 19-11-2011 19:18, Andras Timar escreveu: The id's I have no references are Where these id's are generated and what should I do to get id suitable for a new table entry as this above? You can choose an arbitrary ID, it does not really matter. For example tbl_id4155359, providin

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] The new "Format $1..." / "Delete $1..." commands in 3.5

2011-11-19 Thread Mihkel Tõnnov
2011/11/19 Andras Timar > Hi Mihkel, > > 2011/11/19 Mihkel Tõnnov : > > Hi *, > > The 3.5 branch introduced new strings to format and delete header/footer > > ("Format $1..." and "Delete $1..." -- _XDs and wAFn, respectively), but > > these are coded in a way that the end result looks weird/wrong

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Best way to create new help entries

2011-11-19 Thread Andras Timar
Hi Olivier, 2011/11/19 Olivier Hallot : >> At Sun/Oracle help was edited with OpenOffice.org 1.1 using a special >> filter and a macro set. I don't think it is worth the effort to use >> that. > > In that particular, I am sceptic to hack xhp files with vim editor for a > long text or a new feature

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Best way to create new help entries

2011-11-19 Thread Clio
19.11.2011 17:52, Andras Timar пишет: Hi Olivier, 2011/11/19 Olivier Hallot: At Sun/Oracle help was edited with OpenOffice.org 1.1 using a special filter and a macro set. I don't think it is worth the effort to use that. In that particular, I am sceptic to hack xhp files with vim editor for a

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] added possessive genitive case month names, HEADS UP localizers ;-)

2011-11-19 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Michael, On Saturday, 2011-11-19 16:16:43 +, Michael Bauer wrote: > That's great Eike. Just a minor point, perhaps in might make sense > to change "gentive" to "inflected" or something as I don't think > every language requires the same case. Maybe, but it is referred to as genitive month

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] added possessive genitive case month names, HEADS UP localizers ;-)

2011-11-19 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Mihkel, On Saturday, 2011-11-19 19:20:05 +0200, Mihkel Tõnnov wrote: > > If the format code contains month > > (MMM or ) and day of month (D or DD) the possessive name is > > displayed, else (no D or DD code) the noun is displayed. > > > Where exactly is this going to be used -- Calc's dat

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] added possessive genitive case month names, HEADS UP localizers ; -)

2011-11-19 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Harri, On Saturday, 2011-11-19 22:12:50 +0200, Harri Pitkänen wrote: > Similar problem with Finnish. We need to use genitive or partitive depending > on whether the month name comes before or after the day of month. So you can > write the date for today either as > > "marraskuun 19. 2011"

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] added possessive genitive case month names, HEADS UP localizers ; -)

2011-11-19 Thread fios
Might it not be easier to call them Inflected1 and Inflected2 etc? It'll be up to each locale to ensure they handle it right but we're all well used to plurals being handled that way? It will probably save work down the line when team x mutters that their language needs an irrealis allative for

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] added possessive genitive case month names, HEADS UP localizers ; -)

2011-11-19 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Joan, On Saturday, 2011-11-19 21:50:07 +0100, Joan Montané wrote: > It's not related with inflective forms, but something similar needed in > Catalan, and maybe in other languages like French or Italian. > > In Catalan it's usual to use the long date form "3 de setembre de 2011" > (3rd of Sep