Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc

2016-06-06 Thread Kruno
06.06.2016 u 12:24, Eike Rathke je napisao/la: Hi Kruno, On Thursday, 2016-06-02 09:35:27 +0200, Kruno wrote: See here: http://pravopis.hr/pravilo/bjelina/54/ It's not controversial topic in Croatian orthography. Personal preferences and that "I used to" really should not be an argument her

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc

2016-06-06 Thread winfrieddonkers
Hi, Eike Rathke wrote on 06-06-16 12:24: If in doubt consult the CLDR, see http://www.unicode.org/cldr/charts/29/by_type/numbers.number_formatting_patterns.html#17acd127f9139476 [...] Interesting. If I interpret that correct, Dutch should be "#,##0%" However, "Taalunie" (language 'authority

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc

2016-06-06 Thread Cor Nouws
winfrieddonk...@libreoffice.org wrote on 06-06-16 14:02: > My personal view (based on experiences with the use of percents) is that > between value and the percent character a space is optional and no space > is more common. Same here. > But as I cannot offer any references, let alone standards,

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc

2016-06-06 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi, Eike Rathke wrote on 06-06-16 12:24: > If in doubt consult the CLDR, see > http://www.unicode.org/cldr/charts/29/by_type/numbers.number_formatting_patterns.html#17acd127f9139476 > > The CLDR has a vetting system and they change things only after having > investigated given references. Inter

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc

2016-06-06 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Kruno, On Thursday, 2016-06-02 09:35:27 +0200, Kruno wrote: > See here: http://pravopis.hr/pravilo/bjelina/54/ > > It's not controversial topic in Croatian orthography. Personal preferences > and that "I used to" really should not be an argument here. If we have > Croatian local, then this is

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc

2016-06-06 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Christian, On Thursday, 2016-06-02 07:15:07 +0200, Christian Kühl wrote: > For German a non-breaking space between number and percent sign as well > as units is required, too. Actually only for Germany, Austria and others, but not for Suisse or Liechtenstein. Eike -- LibreOffice Calc dev

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc

2016-06-03 Thread Adolfo Jayme Barrientos
2016-06-02 13:30 GMT-05:00 Kolbjørn Stuestøl : > Also in Norwegian (nb and nn) there should be a non-breaking space between > the value and the unit: > 4 %; 2 kg; 1 m; etc. Also in 21 °C, but 180° (angle). Ditto for Spanish, which follows the same rules as Norwegian and Croatian, as mentioned in t

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc

2016-06-02 Thread Kolbjørn Stuestøl
Den 01.06.2016 21:25, Stanislav Horáček skreiv: Hi all, for most locales, formatting code for the "Percent" category in Calc is a number followed by the percent sign without any space. However, a non-breaking space is usually put after the number in some languages. Thanks to Eike, this has be

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc

2016-06-02 Thread Mihovil Stanić
Sorry for list noise, but since Stanislav confirmed that it won't change funcionality, I'm ok with adding space between number and % (for HR) as Kruno suggested. Mihovil 02.06.2016 u 09:23, Kruno je napisao/la: 02.06.2016 u 07:15, Christian Kühl je napisao/la: Hi, Eike! Am 01.06.2016 um

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc

2016-06-02 Thread Stanislav Horáček
Hi, Dne 2.6.2016 v 09:18 Mihovil Stanić napsal(a): When you enter 5% in cell which is formatted as NUMBER (GENERAL), does it automatically convert to 5,00 % (for new Czech and Finnish setup)? Mihovil yes, the entered 5% (or 5 % with the space) is converted to 5,00 % for the new setup (and to

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc

2016-06-02 Thread Kruno
Although, if it's not fixable in all mentioned cases (without braking something somewhere else), maybe better to let alone. No point having 5 % and 5kn... Kruno 02.06.2016 u 09:35, Kruno je napisao/la: Well, we can talk, but there's nothing to be talked about... See here: http://pravopis.hr

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc

2016-06-02 Thread Muhammet Kara
Hi, No space is needed for Turkish, but the place of the percent sign is wrong; it should be placed before the number (like %5 rather than 5%)[0] and I have sent a patch to fix that.[1] (btw It also affects the tables added in lo writer) I don't know how we didn't realize this before. Thank

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc

2016-06-02 Thread Kruno
Well, we can talk, but there's nothing to be talked about... See here: http://pravopis.hr/pravilo/bjelina/54/ It's not controversial topic in Croatian orthography. Personal preferences and that "I used to" really should not be an argument here. If we have Croatian local, then this is what we m

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc

2016-06-02 Thread Mihovil Stanić
No please don't for now. Kruno and I will first talk before we make this decision. Mihovil 02.06.2016 u 09:23, Kruno je napisao/la: 02.06.2016 u 07:15, Christian Kühl je napisao/la: Hi, Eike! Am 01.06.2016 um 21:25 schrieb Stanislav Horáček: for most locales, formatting code for the "Pe

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc

2016-06-02 Thread Kruno
02.06.2016 u 07:15, Christian Kühl je napisao/la: Hi, Eike! Am 01.06.2016 um 21:25 schrieb Stanislav Horáček: for most locales, formatting code for the "Percent" category in Calc is a number followed by the percent sign without any space. However, a non-breaking space is usually put after th

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc

2016-06-02 Thread Mihovil Stanić
When you enter 5% in cell which is formatted as NUMBER (GENERAL), does it automatically convert to 5,00 % (for new Czech and Finnish setup)? Mihovil 01.06.2016 u 21:25, Stanislav Horáček je napisao/la: Hi all, for most locales, formatting code for the "Percent" category in Calc is a number

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc

2016-06-01 Thread Christian Kühl
Hi, Eike! Am 01.06.2016 um 21:25 schrieb Stanislav Horáček: for most locales, formatting code for the "Percent" category in Calc is a number followed by the percent sign without any space. However, a non-breaking space is usually put after the number in some languages. Thanks to Eike, this has