KR>elevator mass balancing!!

2008-10-12 Thread Phillip Matheson
Hi all I have ,for sometime been concerned about the mass balancing of my elevator. This has been a hot subject lately, and many have talked about elevator tip weights. I would like to hand on some points I found out when I visited an aircraft structural engineer on the weekend. I took my tail plan

KR>elevator mass balancing!!

2008-10-12 Thread Steve and Lori McGee
15 Gs - hahhah - hehheh - in a tail, thats a good one. - Original Message - From: "Phillip Matheson" To: "KRnet" Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:54 PM Subject: Re: KR>elevator mass balancing!! > Hi all > I have ,for sometime been concerned about the

KR>elevator mass balancing!!

2008-10-12 Thread Ross Evans
y-To: KRnet >To: "KRnet" >Subject: Re: KR>elevator mass balancing!! >Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 14:54:59 +1000 > >Hi all >I have ,for sometime been concerned about the mass balancing of my >elevator. >This has been a hot subject lately, and many have talked about elevato

KR>elevator mass balancing!!

2008-10-12 Thread Stephen Jacobs
I have ,for sometime been concerned Reasons 1. twisting of the elevator tips 2. the mass balance arm and mountings must be able to carry 15 times the weight of the mass balance Thank you for the head-up on that - never really stopped to think about the G forces also acti

KR>elevator mass balancing!!

2008-10-12 Thread Dan Heath
RE: He could not believe the plans do not insist on a gusset welded to the mass balance arm to stop cracking failure. He is most likely correct. Or you could use steel. For those of you who were not at the gathering last year, Jim Faughn had exactly this failure. He had it repaired while at the

KR>elevator mass balancing!!

2008-10-12 Thread Dana Overall
>From: "Steve and Lori McGee" >15 Gs - hahhah - hehheh - in a tail, thats a good one. > > >- Original Message - >From: "Phillip Matheson" > > Reasons > > 1. twisting of the elevator tips > > 2. the mass balance arm and mountings must be able to carry 15 times the > > weight of the mas

KR>elevator mass balancing!!

2008-10-12 Thread joe
Dana, I flew the T-34 through departure stalls, which when held were violent. I found it difficult to fly through 60 degrees at 150. Anyone else familiar care to comment? Joe - Original Message - From: "Dana Overall" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 4:19 AM Subject: Re: K

KR>elevator mass balancing!!

2008-10-12 Thread Phillip Matheson
From: "Steve and Lori McGee" >15 Gs - hahhah - hehheh - in a tail, thats a good one. > --- I may have made a mistake, with the 15 times factor, he may have said 13. But it was quite considerable, I'm not qualified to give this information, I can only pass it on. So please do not

KR>elevator mass balancing!!

2008-10-12 Thread Dana Overall
>From: "joe" >Dana, >I flew the T-34 through departure stalls, which when held were violent. >I >found it difficult to fly through 60 >degrees at 150. Anyone else familiar care to comment? >Joe > > I just spent Friday, Sat and Sunday at a formation clinic using the T-34 > > formation flight m

KR>elevator mass balancing!!

2008-10-12 Thread larry severson
60 degree level turn requires 2G input. Anything greater will cause a climb. As the G load goes up, the stall speed increases. The 2 G loading is not automatic with 60 degree bank. It requires increased backpressure. At 06:12 AM 4/7/2004 -0400, you wrote: >>I flew the T-34 through departure

KR>elevator mass balancing!!

2008-10-12 Thread Dana Overall
OK, geez Larry let's split hairs.a "level" 60 degree bank places 2Gs of wing loading which increases stall speed. Does that satisfy you? What the heck did this have with the discussion. GEEZand that's being nice!! Dana Overall 1999 & 2000 National KR Gatheri

KR>elevator mass balancing!!

2008-10-12 Thread joe
- Original Message - From: "Dana Overall" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:12 AM Subject: Re: KR>elevator mass balancing!! > >From: "joe" > >Dana, > >I flew the T-34 through departure stalls, which when held were violent. > >I >

KR>elevator mass balancing!!

2008-10-12 Thread larry severson
At 01:41 PM 4/7/2004 -0400, you wrote: >OK, geez Larry let's split hairs.a "level" 60 >degree bank places 2Gs of wing loading which increases stall speed. Does >that satisfy you? What the heck did this have with the discussion. >GEEZand that's being nice!! Given

KR>elevator mass balancing!!

2008-10-12 Thread Steve and Lori McGee
Steve McGee Endeavor Wi. USA Building a KR2S widened. lmc...@maqs.net - Original Message - From: "Phillip Matheson" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:49 AM Subject: Re: KR>elevator mass balancing!! > From: "Steve and Lori McGee"

KR>elevator mass balancing!!

2008-10-12 Thread larry severson
Splitting hairs again. > Not trying to shoot the messenger and did not mean to cause problems. >Just set me off I guess. Sorry. Was just that the thought of if we have to >build to 15 Gs on an 8 inch span, then what about larger? What are the >chances of the wings holding fuel tanks like myse

KR>elevator mass balancing!!

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
- Original Message - From: "Steve and Lori McGee" What are the > chances of the wings holding fuel tanks like myself and others are building > as much as 40" away from the wafs. Holding up to 100 pounds each? > lmc...@maqs.net Steve, I can not answer all your questions in your origina

KR>elevator mass balancing!! G-loads

2008-10-12 Thread Steve and Lori McGee
landing? 1.5 Gs? 3? That is for plane weight - what is the folcrum result on the WAFs? Steve McGee Endeavor Wi. USA Building a KR2S widened. lmc...@maqs.net From: "Mark Jones" To: "KRnet" Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 6:17 PM Subject: Re: KR>elevator mass balancing!!