I have some KR2 wingtanks on Barnstormers right now
I priced them fairly high but will give a pretty good deal to a KR forum member
Bill Masquelier
Netheads,
While we are busy discussing tanks, what about round tube versus fabricated
tanks. I was a bit surprised the area of material to make a tank, a round tank
will hold more than a square or oblong tank for the same amount of material.
We can work out what the weight for a round tube/ how
- Original Message -
From: "Robin Macdonald"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 3:55 PM
Subject: KR> Tanks
> Netheads,
>
> While we are busy discussing tanks, what about round tube versus
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:31:23 -0800 "David Mikesell"
writes:
> Well, yes the fuel tanks will add stress to the WAF but only on the
> ground
> and during landing because in the out board panels they don't count
> towards
> the gross weight.
And just where do most airplanes spend a vast majority
> And just where do most airplanes spend a vast majority of their time?
I should have just let this go, but it is not a valid comment. The 1g
experienced by an airplane sitting in a hangar is simply not a load case of
any significance, and has no bearing on anything in this discussion.
Mark Lang
skyguy...@skyguynca.com
www.skyguynca.com
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Langford"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: KR>TANKS IN OUTER WINGS
> > And just where do most airplanes spend a vast majority of their time?
>
>
I respectfully disagree. When sitting on the ground, the "1g" weight of
the fuel is supported by the landing gear and everything else when the
tanks are located in the stub wings. When the fuel is located in the
outer wings, the weight, multiplied by the arm of the fuels cg, is
supported as torque
So what do finished wings way? 40 pounds? I just don't see how anyone
could be worried about the wafs holding up to lets say 100 pounds with a
full tank on one side while it holds up to 400 or even 500 at times from
the other direction ( and this is half as the wing on the other side
carries ha
;Clancey D Krumwiede"
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: KR>TANKS IN OUTER WINGS
> I respectfully disagree. When sitting on the ground, the "1g" weight of
> the fuel is supported by the landing gear and everything else when the
> tanks are locate
Why the continued discussion? The plane was designed with retract gear and
wing tanks, at least in the January 1990 manual. Nowhere have I seen stub
tanks in the manuals that I have access to.
Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
lar...@socal.rr.com
That is true Larry, they are in my plans too. I am off this one.
David Mikesell
23957 N. Hwy 99
Acampo, CA 95220
209-609-8774
skyguy...@skyguynca.com
www.skyguynca.com
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From: "larry severson"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 10:3
rsday, November 27, 2003 13:22
Subject: Re: KR>TANKS IN OUTER WINGS
As I stated in the begining, wing tanks are great because they don't figure
in the gross weight of a flying airplane, the weight only becomes a issue
during landing and on the ground. AS stated in the begining s
I have not posted a reply to the KR network in a long while, but I think
that it is time to break my silence. I have wing tanks it the outer panels
of my project. I have not measured the capacity yet but they are on the
order of 20+ gallons . . . each. That goes along with the 4+ gallon heade
>As I stated in the begining, wing tanks are great because they don't figure
>in the gross weight of a flying airplane, the weight only becomes a issue
>during landing and on the ground.
>David Mikesell
++
David,
I hope that what you mean in t
skyguy...@skyguynca.com
www.skyguynca.com
- Original Message -
From: "larry flesner"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 12:04 PM
Subject: KR>TANKS IN OUTER WINGS
>
> >As I stated in the begining, wing tanks are great because they don't
figu
They only KR I know of that has flown with tip tanks was in South Africa and
after the first few flights he discontinued using them. As I recall it was
something about the way the little bird would wrap up in a spin. I think I
read
here on the web or maybe one of the old news letters. Lynn
kr premolded wing skins state that they have gas tanks in outer wings
>
> David Mikesell
> 23957 N. Hwy 99
> Acampo, CA 95220
> 209-609-8774
> skyguy...@skyguynca.com
> www.skyguynca.com
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Lee"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 8:58 PM
> Subject: KR>TANKS IN OUTER WINGS
>
Hi;
I've been thnking about putting a tank, (if needed), just fore of the
main spar under my legs. There is ample room there for a good sized tank
for long trips. Opinions?
Paul Gangemi
KR2s...priming bottom fus. wing stubs, elevators.
Erie, PA 16503
http://community.webtv.net/paulwasp/paulw
;Clancey D Krumwiede"
To:
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 5:25 AM
Subject: Re: KR>TANKS IN OUTER WINGS
> Before designing your aircraft to carry fuel in the outer wings, here are
> a couple of issues to consider:
>
> 1) When dealing with the issue of loads on the WAF, you must al
Paul,
I wouldn't do it, but it is probably as good as a header tank, without
gravity feed.
How do you get into your web site?
N64KR
Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
da...@kr-builder.org
See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering
See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic
See our
>According to my build manual, the KR was designed for
>+/-7 G's.
Scott Cable
Scott,
That's +/- 7 G's at 800 pounds. How many KR's have an
all up flying weight of 800 pounds??
Larry Flesner
03 5:14 PM
Subject: KR>tanks in the outboard wings would be easier on the wafs
>According to my build manual, the KR was designed for
>+/-7 G's.
Scott Cable
Scott,
That's +/- 7 G's at 800 pounds. How many KR&#
Amen!
--- larry flesner wrote:
>
>
>
> >According to my build manual, the KR was designed
> for
> >+/-7 G's.
> Scott Cable
>
>
> Scott,
>
> That's +/- 7 G's at 800 pounds. How many KR's have
> an
> all up flying weight of 800 pounds??
>
> Larry
How To Determine - Cylindrical Tank Volume
Using the diameter of the tank, multiply the diameter by the diameter (D x
D), and then multiply by .7854. This will equal the square area of a
circle.
Area of a cylinder:
Diameter x Diameter x .7854 (D x D x .7854)
Taking the length of the tank multip
Cylindrical Tank Volume
pi * R^2 * H /231
Larry A Capps
Naperville, IL
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a 6" tube x 8" long is 1 gal
( 231 sq. in /gal )
e -
From: "David Mikesell"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: KR>TANKS IN OUTER WINGS
> One thing to remember about wing tankswhile the nice thing is they
don't
> add to your flying gross weight because the wing is carrying t
y for landings.
David Mikesell
23957 N. Hwy 99
Acampo, CA 95220
209-609-8774
skyguy...@skyguynca.com
www.skyguynca.com
- Original Message -
From: "Justin"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: KR>TANKS IN OUTER WINGS
> I planned on put
>Well, yes the fuel tanks will add stress to the WAF but only on the ground
>and during landing because in the out board panels they don't count towards
>the gross weight.
With tanks in the stubs you have to watch your weight for
>take off , flight and landing because the weight is always on the
In the January 1990 of the KR2 manual, not KR2S, Page 82 talks directly the
installation / methods of a wing (not stub) tank addition resulting in 6
gallon tanks (and how to make them bigger). There is no mention of impact
on G loading.
Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
la
I read some of the concerns about added fuel. Someone stated(last week I
think) added fuel adds to the time in the cockpit. (small cockpit). I have
been looking at options about added fuel. I have a dated KR with retracts.
No room in the stub wing for added tanks. I have been looking at option
a 6" tube x 8" long is 1 gal ( 231 sq. in /gal ), I don't think you could fit
much in there , aft of spar may work better
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From: Lee
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 10:58 PM
Subject: KR>TANKS IN OUTER WINGS
Mesa
esell
23957 N. Hwy 99
Acampo, CA 95220
209-609-8774
skyguy...@skyguynca.com
www.skyguynca.com
- Original Message -
From: "Lee"
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 8:58 PM
Subject: KR>TANKS IN OUTER WINGS
I read some of the concerns about added fuel. Someone stated(last week I
I picked up some aluminum - Now I just need a few fittings and get some Proseal
- I finally made my mine up to build all three tanks this way. Insteresting
inputs though from all sides. I plan to make all three tanks removable so they
can be repaired or changed. Thanks to Mark Langford for th
Netters,
I have read the posts about tanks, and appreciate everyone's wisdom about the
aluminum. I plan to build a tank similar to Mark's, but for under the passenger
seat. All who have used it say that vinylester resin is the stuff to use with
one of the impervious foams. Can someone please tel
Colin Rainey wrote:
>> Can someone please tell me the actual product names/or part numbers to
use from either Wicks, or AS&S so that I don't order the wrong stuff. I
can't seem to find any product description that describes resin as
vinylester, and have forgotten which foam is okay to use if neces
First of all, composite vinyl ester tanks work. The aluminum tank thread
just has come up on a regular basis over the 8-9 years I've been on the
KRNet, thus Mark Jones' tanks. Since I have received numerous private
emails and it appears several aluminum tanks are about to be started I
thougt
Dana,
Looks like about 350 miles.
Mark Jones
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From: Dana Overall [mailto:bo12...@hotmail.com]
Now a question since I haven't looked on Mapquest yet. How long a drive is
it from Red Oak to St. Louis. My oldest son plays college football and has
a game in St. Louis
Hey Gang, does anyone have a flying or near flying bird that they would want
to trade for an F40 Ferrari kit car that's nearly finished?
Please reply to my home address and not the group.
Thanks, Russ Houck
pap...@sbcglobal.net
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