KR> Flutter and flight testing

2018-01-17 Thread svd via KRnet
HI All, Finding your flutter speed sounds pretty important and I may try - carefully. But we must not forget that flutter can happen at any speed - and can change. Flutter inducing dynamics increases with speed, but flutter speed can decrease dramatically with changes in rigging, weight, sti

Re: KR> Flutter

2018-01-16 Thread brian.kraut--- via KRnet
Below is a copy of what I posted to the group in 2008 with better instructions for the flutter testing than I just posted a few minutes ago. Read it as Bud wrote it, not as I botched it in the previous email. This is probably a good time to bring up flutter testing. I have attached some excerpts

Re: KR> Flutter

2018-01-16 Thread brian.kraut--- via KRnet
the flex and did the stick tap test which moved my flutter speed way up and I made sure to not approach that speed again. Brian Kraut 904-536-1780 br...@eamanuacturing.com Original Message Subject: Re: KR> Flutter From: Kayak via KRnet Date: Sat, January 13, 2018 10:15

Re: KR> Flutter

2018-01-13 Thread Kayak via KRnet
I brought up flutter recovery several months ago from someone who had encountered it, and again under this thread. I wish we could discuss recovery. My late friend said to me (some 30 years ago), not to apply ANY control input (unless absolutely necessary to avoid the ground) and just take off th

KR> Flutter

2018-01-13 Thread Mike Sylvester via KRnet
I'm glad you guys are discussing this. Last weekend I had gotten up the nerve to do a low pass, when you push the nose over with an O-200 out front she gains speed very quick. Even though I held her back at 195 mph she would have easily hit numbers way beyond that. A friend of mind was watching

KR> Flutter

2014-08-01 Thread Dan Heath
There is an article in the September issue of Kit Planes, devoted to flutter. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN Best Inte

KR> Flutter Testing

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
Brian Kraut wrote: > Rolling into a turn is to load the ailerons. When you are just straight and > level they are free to flutter. Rolling into a turn puts air pressure on > one side of the aileron and the control system forces into play. This takes > out the play and flex in the system, change

KR> Flutter Testing

2008-10-12 Thread Brian Kraut
This is probably a good time to bring up flutter testing. I have attached some excerpts from emails with Bud Davisson about flutter testing on the Midget Mustang. Most of you will recognize who Bud is. Aside from being probably one of the best know aviation authors, quasi test pilot, owner of t

KR> Flutter Testing

2008-10-12 Thread Dan Heath
OK, so what do you do if you actually get flutter, when testing. Scary. See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying has begun. Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC ---Orig

KR> Flutter Testing

2008-10-12 Thread Ron Hoskins
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KR> Flutter Testing

2008-10-12 Thread Dana Overall
>From: "Ron Hoskins" I have come to believe that balancing the control surfaces will prevent flutter? Is this true or false??? Ron, to jump in on Brian's thread, the answer is false. Balanced control surfaces do help but they do not prevent. As reference, read a little furthur down in Brian

KR> Flutter Testing

2008-10-12 Thread Brian Kraut
ering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -Original Message- From: krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-bounces+brian.kraut=engalt@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Ron Hoskins Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 11:39 PM To: kr...@mylist.net Subject: Re: KR> Flutter Testing Than

KR> Flutter Testing

2008-10-12 Thread Brian Kraut
ould have concrete input to share and this is a serious subject. bd Brian Kraut Engineering Alternatives, Inc. www.engalt.com -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Dan Heath Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:14 PM To: kr...@my

KR> Flutter Speed

2008-10-12 Thread Kenneth B. Jones
Here's another interesting site (at least to me). http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/hp_limts.pdf I don't know about the rest of you, but I never realized that flutter is a function of TAS rather than IAS. Guess I never thought about it. Vne is assigned an IAS, as is stall speed maneuvering spe

KR>Flutter

2008-10-12 Thread Stephen Jacobs
I respect airplanes as much as I love them, so when they talk to me I listen. Not many things in airplanes scare me, but when they do - I feel compelled to tell fellow aviators. We have talked about carb ice - I have told you what I know and I will be happy if my input helps one person avoid a ba

KR>Flutter

2008-10-12 Thread joe
other comment I thought to be part of every aviators curriculum that exceed Vne and you become a test pilot. PS The aircraft involved was my comanche 250. - Original Message - From: "Stephen Jacobs" To: "'KRnet'" Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 11:52 AM S

KR>Flutter

2008-10-12 Thread joe
elage itself,". The excerpt is from a study which cab be found at: http://www.lancair.net/flutter.html Joe - Original Message - From: "joe" To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 12:16 PM Subject: Re: KR>Flutter > Dear Steve, > I know when I&#

KR>Flutter

2008-10-12 Thread Steve and Lori McGee
my mind and may have saved me at the same time! Thanks Joe! Steve McGee Endeavor Wi. USA Building a KR2S widened. lmc...@maqs.net - Original Message - From: "joe" To: "KRnet" Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 3:03 PM Subject: Re: KR>Flutter > To all concerne

KR>Flutter

2008-10-12 Thread flymaca711...@aol.com
Hi all for all you guys that like to read there's a good article on this topic in eaa sport aviation magazine Feb 2004 page 91fixing flutter. Very interesting to say the least will got to go its very windy here in the East and I think I just saw cat blow bye here on the farm good day to do som

KR>Flutter

2008-10-12 Thread Mark Jones
- Original Message - From: its very windy here in the East and I > think I just saw cat blow bye here on the farm good day to do some honey dos no > flying today > Hey Mac, You are getting the 30 to 50 mph gust we had here yesterday. I saw a chopper go over my house yesterday literally f

KR>Flutter my what

2008-10-12 Thread Larry A Capps
Flutter is an aerodynamically induced vibration . As the amplitude of the vibration increase, catastrophic failure of the structure can occur. Regards, Larry A Capps Naperville, IL "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it." -Original Message- flutter