At 05:25 AM 2/13/2012, you wrote:
>The other adjantage of using a concentrated weight you can move is
>determining the aft most controllable CG. There was a great set of
>articles in KIT PLANES by Barnaby Wainfan on how to use stick force
>per g and graph out and extrapolate the point of zero st
have and
I'm sure Mark Langford would tell you that you don't want to be on the wrong
side of that curve.
From: Dan Heath
To: 'KRnet'
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 10:11 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Weight Testing
Thank you. We have a lar
From: Dan Heath
To: 'KRnet'
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:06 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Weight Testing
That part is done, but that does not prove that it will fly correctly. I
would not put anyone in the passenger seat without knowing for sure that the
plane would operate proper
Thank you. We have a large lake here where they practice diving. They may
even have something they could rent to me. That may be what I am looking for.
See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
See you at the 2012 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il ? MVN ? 40th Anniversary
Ther
Yes, that is why I am so concerned about it. However, the way mine is set
up, it cannot get behind the seat. That does not mean that other bad things
could not happen unless it is secured at least as good as a passenger would
be.
I think it is a scary and dangerous situation.
See N64KR at http:
That part is done, but that does not prove that it will fly correctly. I
would not put anyone in the passenger seat without knowing for sure that the
plane would operate properly with their weight in that seat.
See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
See you at the 2012 - KR G
.. Simple and easy to do..
Ron
From: Peter Diffey
To: gene timpson ; KRnet
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Weight Testing
A word of caution, I recall a few years ago a kr pilot was killed doing a test
with ballast.
I don't remember his name, but the presumed cau
A word of caution, I recall a few years ago a kr pilot was killed doing a test
with ballast.
I don't remember his name, but the presumed cause was a ballast bag getting
loose and ending up in the tail section
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weight you
need which should help out. The lead will be easy to move around if you find
the CG has moved to far for comfort.
Just some thoughts.
GT
From: Dan Heath
To: 'KRnet'
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 5:40 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Weight Te
I have the passenger moment, as you said, given the same size and
proportioned person, it is the same as the pilot. Actually, I used two
others along with me and averaged the moment to come up with the passenger
station. Now, that certainly won't be the same as the artificial weight,
but I will j
At 11:36 AM 2/12/2012, you wrote:
>Thanks, but what weight? What can be secured?
>
>Again, the WHAT and HOW to secure it, is the issue that I cannot get an
>answer to, even from the RV community that we have here.
Sand bags sold to
ent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 12:36:16 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Weight Testing
Thanks, but what weight? What can be secured? Also, stall tests. I
don't do stalls. They scare the crap outa me. I bring it to the "mush"
point and that is good enough for me.
Again, the
about a dead even match at cruise.
Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM
- Original Message -
From: Dan Heath
Sent: 02/12/12 06:05 AM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: KR> Weight Testing
I believe that to satisfy your gross weight, you must test the plane to that
gross weight along with a W&B
Thanks, but what weight? What can be secured? Also, stall tests. I
don't do stalls. They scare the crap outa me. I bring it to the "mush"
point and that is good enough for me.
Again, the WHAT and HOW to secure it, is the issue that I cannot get an
answer to, even from the RV community that
At 07:05 AM 2/12/2012, you wrote:
>So my question to all you who are currently flying your KR and have
>established your Gross Weight, how did you test for that weight?
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Add weight, say 20 pounds at a time, and make a test
Sandbags strapped into the co-pilot seat spot, full fuel & a full 35lb
suitcase (or whatever your baggage limit is) in your baggage area is
probably the most realistic method I can think of
I bought a program called 'winn balance' to do my initial W&B stuff,
when I get to that point... It c
I believe that to satisfy your gross weight, you must test the plane to that
gross weight along with a W&B of the plane at the time of the test. I still
need to test my plane to the 1200 # gross weight that I have arbitrarily set
for it. I tried to go to the EAA site for help, but they have so ma
Sand or salt can get loose and cause problems just as
a cement block or weights can. You do not want even 25
pounds of loose sand sliding to the rear of the plane
when you put the nose up.
You could make "rope dummies" like we used in
air-rescue training. That way you can make different
size dummi
My problem with a dummy that weighs 200 is that I could not lift it into the
plane. I always tied down my bags of salt, using the seat belt and
shoulder harness and extra rope to secure the load.
Orma
Southfield, MI
KR-2 N110LR 1984
See Tweety at http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com
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