Are there any wing plans like the 1b available for low speed/high lifting
load wings that would fit a stock kr2? I suppose there are other things
like rudder area that would have to be changed...
Heck maybe someone has an unfinished pair for sale?
thanks
jg
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I can't argue with that...I was just wagging it because wiki says 34 lbs.
Still, a very good looking selection for the purpose. I think I have
figured why the faa has that criteria. I think they are combining surface
loading and aspect ratio...both use wing surface...just a guess.of
course...but
, jon kimmel via KRnet wrote:
Subject: Re: KR> KR1B motorglider criteria question
To: "KRnet"
Cc: "jon kimmel"
Date: Monday, July 11, 2016, 8:11 PM
The goal with a self
launched sailplane is glideslope and low stall
speed...so high aspect ratio and low weight.?
The
OK regarding the weight. I put 800lbs as a *gross* weight because I
believe thats what the FAA criteria formula is based on, but not sure.
The lightest KR (a 1.5) on the spreadsheet is 525lbs empty with a VW.
I weight almost 200lbs. Fuel will be at least another hundred. That's
825 right there.
I
The goal with a self launched sailplane is glideslope and low stall
speed...so high aspect ratio and low weight. The engine we selected back
in '82 was a kfm 107...25 hp at 40 lbs. You could do a max gross of under
500 lbs with an engine like that.
https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/
htt
It will weigh 800 lbs if you put a Lycoming O-720 on it.
John
In a message dated 7/11/2016 3:48:08 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
krnet at list.krnet.org writes:
At 03:33 PM 7/11/2016, you wrote:
>if gross weight of say, 800lbs, what would the span need to be?
+++
I think its 27ft. ?but what I was getting it is FAA compliance to legally be a
motorglider, which does not require a medical for example like LSA, ?and would
allow retracts, cockput adjustable prop pitch, etc. and no altitude limitation.
just curious if the kr1b complies.?
Sent from my T-Mobil
The KR-1B wingspan is 27', empty weight 484 pounds, and gross weight 800
pounds. According to the previously mentioned rules (assuming they are
true), that means a max weight of 452 pounds, whether gross or empty,
which is less than either of the advertised numbers.
Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.c
At 03:33 PM 7/11/2016, you wrote:
>if gross weight of say, 800lbs, what would the span need to be?
++
I calculate 36 feet span but I can't imagine a kr1 motor glider
having a gross weight of 800 pounds I doubt the spars will
handle a 36 foot
if gross weight of say, 800lbs, what would the span need to be?
Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
My assumption is that they are talking gross weight.
We did a powered sailplane design as my senior design project in
college...but I don't remember any details...long long time ago...found a
great little 2 cylinder engine that weighed next to nothing.
https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/
At 08:30 AM 7/11/2016, you wrote:
>At 07:59 AM 7/11/2016, you wrote:
>
>>"The maximum weight to wing span squared w/b squared ) does not exceed
>>>3.0 kg/ma (0.62 lb./ft squared )"
>>>
>>>http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC_21.17-2A.pdf
>>++
At 07:59 AM 7/11/2016, you wrote:
>"The maximum weight to wing span squared w/b squared ) does not exceed
>>3.0 kg/ma (0.62 lb./ft squared )"
>>
>>http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC_21.17-2A.pdf
>+++
After furth
"The maximum weight to wing span squared w/b squared ) does not exceed
>3.0 kg/ma (0.62 lb./ft squared )"
>
>http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC_21.17-2A.pdf
+++
Chris,
I checked the web site and couldn't find
I noticed that nvAero now offers the KR1B motorglider wing plans.
The FAA specifies the criteria for a plane to be considered a
motorglider and the main one is:
"The maximum weight to wing span squared w/b squared ) does not exceed
3.0 kg/ma (0.62 lb./ft squared )"
http://www.faa.gov/documentLib
At 05:12 PM 10/13/2008, you wrote:
>I have a KR1 modified. What is a KR1B?
>
>John Edwards
A KR1B is a KR1 with long wings. I believe there are still plans
available. Check out the Rand Robinson web page at
http://www.fly-kr.com/
and look under the
James Neely wrote:
>I see very little about the KR1B anywhere. Is this an"orphan"? Is it a
> "dog"? I would think that the fact that no one seems to have built one
> suggests that it's not a good choice.
To my knowlege, only one KR1B was ever built and flown, and it was the
prototype. For t
I have a KR1 modified. What is a KR1B?
John Edwards at mykitlog.com/kapowsin
James Neely wrote:
> I see very little about the KR1B anywhere. Is this an"orphan"? Is it a
> "dog"? I would think that the fact that no one seems to have built one
> suggests that it's not a good choice.
> Has any
I see very little about the KR1B anywhere. Is this an"orphan"? Is it a
"dog"? I would think that the fact that no one seems to have built one
suggests that it's not a good choice.
Has anyone any more info on it? I keep looking at it thinking it might be a
nice project, but bitter experience wi
A Guy in ABQ has attached two model aircraft jet engines (15 to 20lbs thrust)
to is sail-plane to make it self launching and self sustaining.As I understand
it the engines are reliable and are made in part from auto engine turbos. Sure
would make a neat sound for your KR1B
Garry Cowles
Santa F
Everyone--
I'm curious enough about the Kr1b plans to purchase a set(I already have
the basic plans), but I can't find a price anywhere on the RR site. I tried
the archives, but no luck. I thought I remembered Mark L saying he just mailed
in a few bucks and got them. If anyone knows what
gan
---Original Message---
From: KRnet
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 08/22/04 21:22:28
To: KRnet
Subject: @CHECK++ KR> KR1B Plans
Everyone--
I'm curious enough about the Kr1b plans to purchase a set(I already have the
basic plans), but I can't find a price anywhere on
Here's something I posted March 7th of this year on the KR1B that might
help.
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I guess it's obvious from my recent posts that I've been thinking about the
KR1-B Motorglider. One of the things I asked my FSDO rep a few weeks ago
was "what defines whether an aircraft is a mot
How about "Don't ask, Don't tell" Virg
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 14:29:51 -0500 "Mark Langford"
writes:
> Here's something I posted March 7th of this year on the KR1B that
> might
> help.
> ---
>
> I guess it's obvious from my recent posts that I've been thinking
> about
Ron Freiberger wrote:
> My problem... not enough garage room for the KRSport wing.
There's an interesting article in the December 2003 Kitplanes (page 15) that
discusses the Europa MOTORGLIDER. The guy that built it lost his medical,
but discovered that all you need to fly a "motorglider" is a g
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