On 15 Mar 2014 12:52, "Kenneth B. Jones" wrote:
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> John/Rogelio,
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> IF certifying under FAR 23, and using other than the listed materials,
then the fire test is required. Who knows? Perhaps .005" stainless over
Fiberfrax is better than .015 stainless.
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> Ken
I agree. Someone ne
.015 in Stainless seem to be the only option...
On 15 Mar 2014 04:14, "Kenneth B. Jones" wrote:
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> On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:18 PM, John Bouyea wrote:
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> > Anyone
> > make a reference as to what heat level/ temprature and duration is
> > "approved" as a test?
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> 2000 degrees F for 15 min
Great info. I guess my point to the original question/comment was the designed
material was not easily found or within a reasonable price. The drawings still
shows .005 stainless and asbestos on the firewall. Maybe this dialog will
bring about some sort of addendum to the drawings with a safe
We're NOT certifying under Part 23. The info I provided was in response to a
question from John. But, if you want to do the test, you can get some ideas
from http://www.fire.tc.faa.gov/handbook.stm
On Mar 15, 2014, at 9:12 AM, Rogelio Serrano wrote:
> On 15 Mar 2014 12:52, "Kenneth B. Jones"
Fibnrefrax is the heat shield, not the stainless, Virg
On 3/15/2014 8:52 AM, Kenneth B. Jones wrot
>> .015 in Stainless seem to be the only option...
> Thanks for digging up the reference Ken! I'll see what I ca
>> n do.
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>> Right off the bat, the existing plans method for constructing
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On Mar 15, 2014, at 7:51 AM, Rogelio Serrano wrote:
> .015 in Stainless seem to be the only option...
On Mar 15, 2014, at 7:39 AM, John Bouyea wrote:
> Thanks for digging up the reference Ken! I'll see what I can do.
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> Right off the bat, the existing plans method for constructing our
I should probably clarify that the exact type of aluminum doesn't matter
much, given that it all melts at about the same temperature. I'm guessing
Tony recommended 2024-T6 because it's a little stiffer than most others and
would look better, but if you've got any kind of .015" aluminum around,
Ken Jones wrote:
>>IF certifying under FAR 23, and using other than the listed materials,
>>then the fire test is required. Who knows? Perhaps .005" stainless over
>>Fiberfrax is better than .015 stainless.,<<
I bought the .015" thick stainless for my firewall, because I couldn't find
anythin
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On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:18 PM, John Bouyea wrote:
> Anyone make a reference as to what heat level/ temprature and duration is
"approved" as a test?
>
2000 degre
On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:18 PM, John Bouyea wrote:
> Anyone
> make a reference as to what heat level/ temprature and duration is
> "approved" as a test?
>
2000 degrees F for 15 minutes, per part 23.
?23.1191 Firewalls.
(a) Each engine, auxiliary power unit, fuel burning heater, and other
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I am pretty sure that you can get thin galvanized at Home Depot. Any local
sheet metal place should have it also. I
I am pretty sure that you can get thin galvanized at Home Depot. Any
local sheet metal place should have it also. I got a 4' X 8' sheet of I
think .016" when I redid my Sonerai and Starduster firewalls. I think
it was something like $30. Aluminum will not block a fuel fire for very
long. All
It doesn't have to be stainless, but it does to be steel. I found 24"x 32"
.024 galvanized for $13.00 at online metals...it might weigh 5 lbs but i
figure i am going to need ballast up front anyway.
https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/
https://sites.google.com/site/mykr2stretch/parts-for-s
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From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Rob Schmitt
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 8:48 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: Re: KR> Firewall material
I did not use Stainless steel. I used a layer of fiberfrax against the
firewall with aluminum sheet over it, pretty light
How much is the Stainless and Fibrefrax firewall kit ? Virg
On 3/13/2014 6:59 PM, Dan Prichard wrote:
> FYI. Neither wicks or aircraft spruce carry .005 stainless sheet or any other
> size below .015. I found a specialty supplier in Ashland Oregon and they want
> $63 per sqft. A tou
recall.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/fiberfrax.php?clickkey=6977
Rob Schmitt
N1852Z
www.robert7721.com
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FYI. Neither wicks or aircraft spruce carry .005 stainless sheet or any other
size below .015. I found a specialty supplier in Ashland Oregon and they want
$63 per sqft. A touch spendy for me. Fortunately I have a piece coming from a
generous KR builder. So for the other new builders out there,
Wicks or Aircraft Spruce, Virg
On 3/10/2014 8:11 PM, Dan Prichard wrote:
> Does anyone know where I can order .005" stainless steel for the firewall?
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> Dan Prichard
> Portland, OR
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Does anyone know where I can order .005" stainless steel for the firewall?
Dan Prichard
Portland, OR
Sent from my iPhone
Hey guys,
Over here in the Netherlands we are bussy with the fwd deck, canopy frame and
the aft deck. If I am looking at the next stage we have to think about the fire
wall. We have made the decision to go for an 100 HP engine. Did any of you make
the connetion from the firewall to the fuselage
Hi folks,
I have a question. I've been using T88 epoxy and decided to try
Aeropoxy PR2032 Resin with
PH3660 hardener. I glassed a part of my elevator with it three days
ago and, although it has
set up and no longer tacky, it is still flexible. I can still indent
it with my finger. Is it ever
McMaster Carr sells various thicknesses of thin stainless steel. I used
some .005" for some of the "NACA duct" protection from exhaust heat that I
put under those ducts. See
http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/117/3710/=bh9nfp . A 24" x 50" piece of
.005" is $42.05.
Also, a 2'x3' piece of Fiber
Some folks asked where to get Fiberfrax. See
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/search/search.php . I think I used 1/8", but
1/16" is supposed to work fine. I guess that's another reason my plane is
heavy, although fiberfrax is a tiny fraction of the weight of stainless
steel, and that was my log
Hmmm that is true, though I do have a real small tank too so there is alot
of weight savings there. Guess it all depends on several factors. I guess if
I was going the two place route I would worry more about it as tyring to lug
300-400lbs of humans then every single pound saved counts.
I won't ev
Joe Fuentes wrote:
>>Was reading though the plans, and it seems it was supposed to have cooking
foil thin firewall, .005, gezz that is thin!! No wonder it peeled off with
my fingers. I'm going with stainless steel at .035 yea a little more weight,
but...<<
I thought exactly the same thing, so I o
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