> Been re-reading 'Stick and Rudder' (Langewiesche)
> Artful flying is okay too.
The second one is by Michael Maya Charles, recent (very briefly) editor
(took J. Mac's place for two issues) of Flying. I've admired his writing
since his first story in Flying back in the 80's called "Freight Dog
Actually, I concur. I think it was a productive discussion with the proper
caveats that I hope other pilots take to heart. -Jeff
--
Jeff forgive me as I am not trying to put
words in your mouth.
Dave "Zipper" Goodman
Get Free
KR fliers and soon to be fliers,
I hope the discussion on stalls has been a fruitful one. Please no one out
there think I am saying the plane should not be flown to approach to stall
or full stall. My point is to present a word of caution on flying full
power stalls. It does not take a great
Jeff Scott wrote:
>>An example of a plane you don't stall: If you choose to do an approach
>>stall in a Lancair 4 you do so with the gear down to prevent overspeeding
>>the airframe during recovery. You can expect it to roll onto it's back as
>>one wing will wash out quite abruptly and violen
I thought approach and departure stalls are part of the PTS that every pilot
should be able to perform for their PPL and are typically asked to demonstrate
during their BFRs. Now, that doesn't mean it should be performed in every
aircraft, as I'll discuss below. The point that I apparently fai
Been re-reading 'Stick and Rudder' (Langewiesche) from the '40's and his
point and focus is "Angle of Attack" big time. Maybe 'stalls' are avoidable,
but should be practiced. I found the book to be helpful as an 'attitude
adjustment"; Artful flying is okay too.
Mark W
N952MW (res)
-Original M
One thing that I learned during my flight training was NEVER pick
up a wing in the approach to
a stall with the aileron. It INCEREASES THE ANGLE OF Attack on the
low wing and
precipitates the stall on that wing and it stalls first, Virg
On 12/3/2010 11:55 AM, Jeff Scott wrot
At 07:46 AM 12/3/2010, you wrote:
>I am contemplating building by stub wings at the same time I build
>my outboard wings. Kind of makes since but I have not worked out
>the details. I was thinking of installing a temporary rib at the
>location of the cut for the outboard portion.
>Steve Philla
Jeff wrote:
Before we start beating drum about the KR being a dangerous craft to stall, you
need to look a little farther. I practice both power off and power on stalls
in
my KR.
Jeff,
I agree with you about stalling the KR. The chances of the average pilot
making a mistake I a full powe
That is nice to know Jeff. Thanks for the report. I guess there are a lot of
variables to look at.
Victor
From: Jeff Scott
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Fri, December 3, 2010 10:55:34 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Stalls
Before we start beating drum about the KR being
"Toad" wrote:
>Could you update the link to the writeup you did on the SportAir welding
>workshop you attended
It's now at http://www.n56ml.com/sportair/ . I've owned the N56ML domain for
years now, and have gradually tried to update all the links, but I didn't
get serious about making sure th
Mark,
Could you update the link to the writeup you did on the SportAir welding
workshop you attended. You gave the link in the last couple of weeks or so and
with your web site change it no longer works and I was unable to locate it on
your new page. (I did find a few other things I want to s
"I have not heard of anyone doing this, but has anyone put a ventral fin on a
KR?"
I have indeed added a ventral fin to the aft end of my fuselage. I did this for
two reasons, to provide an aerodynamic fairing for my tail tie down eyelet and
to provide a fairing for my "bumper wheel". I have a S
Mark Langford wrote:
<< I'm not trying to say that a KR is any more dangerous than any other
plane. >>
For my money Mark, your flight report is completely normal for most
airplanes. Early in my flight training I did the same thing when learning
accelerated stalls. While fixating on the airspee
KR-netters,
There have been two excellent posts recently concerning full power stalls in
the KR. Mark Langford's personal experience of flipping upside down after a
hard roll out of a full power stall is not unique to the KR, but the math
behind the snap roll says the high-powered short KR shou
Before we start beating drum about the KR being a dangerous craft to stall, you
need to look a little farther. I practice both power off and power on stalls
in my KR. It's more docile and controllable in a power on stall than my
Tomahawk was (the Tommy always wanted to roll over and spin). I
Fred Johnson wrote:
> Mark, when I try the link it gives me a DNS error and can't find it.
>
>
Re: new website links: Likewise here
--
Glenn Martin
N1333A
Biloxi, MS
It worked fine for me Mark.
Vic Taylor
From: Fred Johnson
To: KRnet
Sent: Fri, December 3, 2010 9:16:34 AM
Subject: RE: KR> website change, sunsets
Mark, when I try the link it gives me a DNS error and can't find it.
Fred Johnson
Reno, NV
Hello Phil,
I once had a conversation with an early KR pilot that personally knew Ken Rand.
He said that he did a full power stall in his KR at 9000 feet. He said it took
more than 8000 feet to recover. It was so bad he said he had already decided
that he was going to die but tried one more tim
Mark, when I try the link it gives me a DNS error and can't find it.
Fred Johnson
Reno, NV
Mark L wrote:
After fifteen years, I've ditched hiwaay.net (named after our local TV
station WAAY from which it was spun off), for reasons that raise my blood
pressure unnecessarily to dis
Ten hours seems to be the standard for signoffs here too. Just checked last
week, the CFI wanted to set me up for ten hours to recertify me.
I have a friends who have filmed alot of aerobatics from inside and outside the
plane w/ cameras mounted in various places. goprocamera.com datatoys.com for
the systems used. Their #1 rule is the camera must be on a solid mount. No hat
or helment mounts. The footage is usually not usable and wil
Too bad you did not have that on video.
From: Mark Langford
To: KRnet
Sent: Fri, December 3, 2010 7:09:02 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Stalls
"Joe" wrote:
Anybody have a "in the cockpit" video of a KR2/KR2S in a full stall?
I don't have a video, but I've got one "fu
Steve Phillabaum wrote:
>>I am contemplating building by stub wings at the same time I build my
>>outboard wings. Kind of makes since but I have not worked out the
>>details. I was thinking of installing a temporary rib at the location of
>>the cut for the outboard portion. <<
I did exactly
Hello all,
I am contemplating building by stub wings at the same time I build my outboard
wings. Kind of makes since but I have not worked out the details. I was
thinking of installing a temporary rib at the location of the cut for the
outboard portion. Doing this would save some time using
In case you missed it, FYI
I am building some of my own avionics I am always looking for new gagets and I
found this flap position indicator and decided to use it for my belly board.
http://www.sportaviationonline.org/sportaviation/201011/?pg=80&pm=2&u1=friend
Craig
www.kr2seafury.com
Phil,
Wow, that would be great! Thanks buddy.
Joe Cygan
KR-2S
From: "phillipmathe...@bigpond.com"
To: KRnet
Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 9:44:23 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Stalls
Video full stall.
-
Joe that is a good idea. I have now purchased
a small h
"Joe" wrote:
Anybody have a "in the cockpit" video of a KR2/KR2S in a full stall?
I don't have a video, but I've got one "full power full stall" permanently
fried into my brain. Left wing drops, plane drops and rolls inverted,
accelerates toward the ground at an incredible rate, everything in
Sorry,
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