On 30 May 2012 02:38, Chris Cormack wrote:
> On 30 May 2012 12:30, Chris Nighswonger wrote:
>> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Ian Walls wrote:
>>>
>>> To me, the role of QA is to be highly conservative. The QA team needs to
>>> look at a piece of incoming code, and not only judge it on how w
On 30 May 2012 12:30, Chris Nighswonger wrote:
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Ian Walls wrote:
>>
>> To me, the role of QA is to be highly conservative. The QA team needs to
>> look at a piece of incoming code, and not only judge it on how well it does
>> it's intended purpose, but how it a
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Ian Walls wrote:
> To me, the role of QA is to be highly conservative. The QA team needs to
> look at a piece of incoming code, and not only judge it on how well it does
> it's intended purpose, but how it affects all the other code and workflows
> that surround
To me, the role of QA is to be highly conservative. The QA team needs to
look at a piece of incoming code, and not only judge it on how well it does
it's intended purpose, but how it affects all the other code and workflows
that surround it. The folks creating and signing off on code are often
lo
Le 29/05/2012 13:50, Marcel de Rooy a écrit :
> I agree with most responses in this thread: If a company makes a patch, a
> customer of that company signs off,
> it should not be QAed by that company, but by a "neutral" party.
> The QAer should even be allowed to ask for a second outside signoff
Van: koha-devel-boun...@lists.koha-community.org
[koha-devel-boun...@lists.koha-community.org] namens Kyle Hall
[kyle.m.h...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: dinsdag 29 mei 2012 12:30
To: Dobrica Pavlinusic
Cc: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Onderwerp: Re: [Koha-devel] Signing-off a patch for a customer
I
I am also of the mind the sign-off should be allowed by another
employee of the same organization as the developer, provided they
signer has no history of signing off on patches without testing. I do
strongly also believe that QA must then be done by a disinterested
party.
Kyle
On Tue, May 29, 20
On 29 May 2012 21:24, Dobrica Pavlinusic wrote:
> On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:00:12AM +0200, Paul Poulain wrote:
>> Le 29/05/2012 09:50, Nicole Engard a écrit :
>> > Just to add in my opinion here.
>> >
>> > As someone who has been in Paul's situation, where a library (that has
>> > paid us to writ
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 10:00:12AM +0200, Paul Poulain wrote:
> Le 29/05/2012 09:50, Nicole Engard a écrit :
> > Just to add in my opinion here.
> >
> > As someone who has been in Paul's situation, where a library (that has
> > paid us to write them code) has been testing (and sometimes using the
Le 29/05/2012 09:50, Nicole Engard a écrit :
> Just to add in my opinion here.
>
> As someone who has been in Paul's situation, where a library (that has
> paid us to write them code) has been testing (and sometimes using the
> code in production) and has confirmed that things work I agree that
>
Just to add in my opinion here.
As someone who has been in Paul's situation, where a library (that has
paid us to write them code) has been testing (and sometimes using the
code in production) and has confirmed that things work I agree that
putting a sign off in their name should be an okay practi
On 29 May 2012 07:58, Chris Cormack wrote:
>
> On May 29, 2012 4:30 AM, "Paul Poulain" wrote:
>>
>> Le 28/05/2012 18:14, Chris Nighswonger a écrit :
>>
>> > Have them use *french* then... or whatever language they are comfortable
>> > in. There are enough resources to handle translation around he
On May 29, 2012 4:30 AM, "Paul Poulain" wrote:
>
> Le 28/05/2012 18:14, Chris Nighswonger a écrit :
>
> > Have them use *french* then... or whatever language they are comfortable
> > in. There are enough resources to handle translation around here I
think.
> > Does BZ have a multi-lingual interfac
Le 28/05/2012 18:14, Chris Nighswonger a écrit :
> Have them use *french* then... or whatever language they are comfortable
> in. There are enough resources to handle translation around here I think.
> Does BZ have a multi-lingual interface?
Yes it does. although the quality was quite average la
Le 28/05/2012 18:16, Chris Nighswonger a écrit :
> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Jared Camins-Esakov
> mailto:jcam...@cpbibliography.com>> wrote:
> Having things scripted so that anyone on a sandbox can sign-off both in
> BZ and git would be spectacular. Perhaps authentication could be
> coordi
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Jared Camins-Esakov <
jcam...@cpbibliography.com> wrote:
>
> I don't want to break the rule. I just request that 3 identified ppl
>> from BibLibre can sign-off in the name of the customer (I like the Proxy
>> term).
>>
>
> In case this wasn't clear, I have absolut
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Paul Poulain wrote:
> Le 28/05/2012 17:46, Jared Camins-Esakov a écrit :
> > Paul, et. al.,
> >
> > Sorry about the second e-mail ten seconds after the first.
> >
> > (I don't want to count bug 6858 in this list, because, for me, it has
> > been tested by
Le 28/05/2012 17:46, Jared Camins-Esakov a écrit :
> Paul, et. al.,
>
> Sorry about the second e-mail ten seconds after the first.
>
> (I don't want to count bug 6858 in this list, because, for me, it has
> been tested by a dis-interested -well, in fact, calling the library
> "dis-int
Hope that makes sense,
Katrin
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: koha-devel-boun...@lists.koha-community.org im Auftrag von Jared
Camins-Esakov
Gesendet: Mo 28.05.2012 17:40
An: Marc Balmer
Cc: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Betreff: Re: [Koha-devel] Signing-off a patch for a customer
Marc,
But, if
Marc Balmer wrote
> Am 28.05.12 17:19, schrieb Fischer, Katrin:
>> Hi Paul and all,
>>
>> I agree with Chris N. here. Every exception we make, makes it harder to
>> explain and stick to our rules.
>> I tinkk every patch should at least have 2 parties involved.
>
> But, if the patch we speak about,
Paul, et. al.,
Sorry about the second e-mail ten seconds after the first.
(I don't want to count bug 6858 in this list, because, for me, it has
> been tested by a dis-interested -well, in fact, calling the library
> "dis-interested" is maybe not the best term, but nevermind ;-) )
>
I don't see h
Marc,
But, if the patch we speak about, has been tested at the library, that
> makes it already two involved parties, I would say.
>
Neither of the parties is disinterested. I think having the sign-off by the
library is probably okay for this type of patch where there are only a
certain number of
Le 28/05/2012 17:03, Chris Nighswonger a écrit :
> Hi Paul,
> I believe we need to stick with the principles we agreed to. This patch
> clearly missed the "approval" of a dis-interested party in its initial
> commit to master. (Perhaps Katrin mentioned this at some point, but I'm
> not sure.) We n
012 17:03
> An: Paul Poulain
> Cc: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
> Betreff: Re: [Koha-devel] Signing-off a patch for a customer
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Paul Poulain
> wrote:
>
>> Hello koha-devel,
>>
>> I just pushed
Nighswonger
Gesendet: Mo 28.05.2012 17:03
An: Paul Poulain
Cc: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Betreff: Re: [Koha-devel] Signing-off a patch for a customer
Hi Paul,
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Paul Poulain wrote:
> Hello koha-devel,
>
> I just pushed a follow-up for bug 685
Hi Paul,
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Paul Poulain wrote:
> Hello koha-devel,
>
> I just pushed a follow-up for bug 6858. If you look at the patch, you'll
> see that the author is from BibLibre, as well as the sign-offer. But if
> you look more carefully on the patch comments, you may unders
Am 28.05.12 16:48, schrieb Paul Poulain:
> Hello koha-devel,
>
> I just pushed a follow-up for bug 6858. If you look at the patch, you'll
> see that the author is from BibLibre, as well as the sign-offer. But if
> you look more carefully on the patch comments, you may understand that
> Stephane De
Hello koha-devel,
I just pushed a follow-up for bug 6858. If you look at the patch, you'll
see that the author is from BibLibre, as well as the sign-offer. But if
you look more carefully on the patch comments, you may understand that
Stephane Delaye has signed-off "in the name of the library". We'
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