Re: [Koha] Live DVD

2013-05-29 Thread Zeno Tajoli
Dear Fred and Lars, >Let me echo what Lars said. Let's say I used the Live DVD to install our >system (which I did). Provided that you: > Change the passwords from the default to something more cryptic > Update Xubuntu as needed (and the system is not shy about letting me know > when new upd

Re: [Koha] Live DVD

2013-05-29 Thread King, Fred
fred.k...@medstar.net 202-877-6221 -Original Message- From: koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Lars J. Helbo Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:32 AM To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz Subject: Re: [Koha] Live DVD Den 28-05-2013 09:39, Mason Jame

Re: [Koha] Live DVD

2013-05-29 Thread Lars J. Helbo
Den 28-05-2013 09:39, Mason James skrev: hi Folks i think this topic still needs a little more discussion, so i added it to the agenda of the next Koha meeting http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting,_5_June_2013 I was the one, who trickered this discussion - sorry ;-) An

Re: [Koha] Live DVD

2013-05-28 Thread Mason James
On 2013-05-23, at 1:11 AM, Jared Camins-Esakov wrote: > Lars, > > Unfortunately they often give up, before they really get started. Therefore >> I want to make the entry level as low as anyway possible. The live DVD is a >> wonderful way to make more people use Koha. The people that I am dealing

Re: [Koha] Live DVD (Was: Master-password (katikoan) and Live-DVD

2013-05-22 Thread Mirko
Vimal, I apologize if I gave the impression that I disapprove of your work. That was not my intention. I hope it came out in the discussion that neither myself nor others (as far as I can see) object to a Live DVD as a great means for certain purposes. Reasons for and against the use of Live DVD

Re: [Koha] Live DVD (Was: Master-password (katikoan) and Live-DVD

2013-05-22 Thread Chris Cormack
On 22 May 2013 23:22, BWS Johnson wrote: > Salvete! > > I think it's a bit silly for developers to think that someone at a > library with extremely limited resources will end up spending a tonne of time > learning command line Debian linux to install from packages. I'm very > grateful to Ro

Re: [Koha] Live DVD (Was: Master-password (katikoan) and Live-DVD

2013-05-22 Thread Jared Camins-Esakov
Lars, Unfortunately they often give up, before they really get started. Therefore > I want to make the entry level as low as anyway possible. The live DVD is a > wonderful way to make more people use Koha. The people that I am dealing > with are typically having small school-libraries (with max 10

Re: [Koha] Live DVD (Was: Master-password (katikoan) and Live-DVD

2013-05-22 Thread Lars J. Helbo
Den 22-05-2013 14:28, Owen Leonard skrev: My goal in chiming in was to encourage the original poster to spend his time learning how to get packages working rather than spend time debugging problems with the Live DVD. I simply thought that if someone is putting in effort to fix a technical probl

Re: [Koha] Live DVD (Was: Master-password (katikoan) and Live-DVD

2013-05-22 Thread Owen Leonard
> I think it's even sillier for folks to jump on Vimal for crafting a very > widely used > tool that is incredibly appreciated and is a great contribution. This is a mischaracterization of this thread. No one is criticizing Vimal for creating the Live DVD. My goal in chiming in was to encour

Re: [Koha] Live DVD (Was: Master-password (katikoan) and Live-DVD

2013-05-22 Thread King, Fred
admirable. Fred King Medical Librarian, MedStar Washington Hospital Center fred.k...@medstar.net 202-877-6221 -Original Message- From: koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:koha-boun...@lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Vimal Kumar V. Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:14 AM To: Koha-List Subje

Re: [Koha] Live DVD (Was: Master-password (katikoan) and Live-DVD

2013-05-22 Thread BWS Johnson
Salvete!     I think it's a bit silly for developers to think that someone at a library with extremely limited resources will end up spending a tonne of time learning command line Debian linux to install from packages. I'm very grateful to Robin for putting together the packages, since things a

Re: [Koha] Live DVD (Was: Master-password (katikoan) and Live-DVD

2013-05-22 Thread COURYHOUSE
Please email me the url for the latest live version please. Ed# In a message dated 5/21/2013 11:58:40 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, 5...@gmx.de writes: Vimal, I tend to disagree. From what I get from people on mailing lists that use the DVD is - »I don't know anything about Linux« -

Re: [Koha] Live DVD (Was: Master-password (katikoan) and Live-DVD

2013-05-22 Thread Vimal Kumar V.
Dear Friends, We can leave unhealthy arguments on Live DVD. We can submit the Official Live DVD to users, its their freedom to use for what purpose. They have freedom to accept or reject it. I strongly believe that, Live DVD can provide an opportunity to try Koha for newbies. Please forgive me if

Re: [Koha] Live DVD (Was: Master-password (katikoan) and Live-DVD

2013-05-22 Thread Chris Cormack
On 22 May 2013 21:29, Chrispin Simasiku Sitali wrote: > Like I said before, after learning about Koha and linux using the Live DVD > first Mizstik's *Koha Live* CD then Vimal Kumar's. After doing several > installations and gaining enough confidence and experience I am able to > install Koha in mo

Re: [Koha] Live DVD (Was: Master-password (katikoan) and Live-DVD

2013-05-22 Thread Chrispin Simasiku Sitali
Like I said before, after learning about Koha and linux using the Live DVD first Mizstik's *Koha Live* CD then Vimal Kumar's. After doing several installations and gaining enough confidence and experience I am able to install Koha in most linux distros. I remember the embarrassment of asking for a

Re: [Koha] Live DVD (Was: Master-password (katikoan) and Live-DVD

2013-05-21 Thread Mirko
Vimal, I tend to disagree. From what I get from people on mailing lists that use the DVD is - »I don't know anything about Linux« - »I don't have time to learn« - »I want to run the system without basic knowledge about it« Of course I do understand that librarians have other things to do than lea

Re: [Koha] Live DVD (Was: Master-password (katikoan) and Live-DVD

2013-05-21 Thread Vimal Kumar V.
Dear Friends, Developers / Linux techies view point manual installation is easy and convenient. In the case of a library professional, they have no Linux experience. They need to familiar with Linux desktop. Live DVD can provide familiarization. It give more confidence in them. Later they can le

Re: [Koha] Live DVD (Was: Master-password (katikoan) and Live-DVD)

2013-05-21 Thread Owen Leonard
> You are probably right. The problem is that the potential users that I know > of here, will often give up during the manual installation, so they will > never get to any long run. Instead of encouraging users to use the Live DVD we should encourage them to take advantage of all the available onl

Re: [Koha] Live DVD (Was: Master-password (katikoan) and Live-DVD)

2013-05-21 Thread Lars J. Helbo
Den 21-05-2013 15:27, Owen Leonard skrev: I'm not an installation expert, but based on what smarter people than I have said, using the Live DVD instead of packages for production use is a mistake for at least a couple of reasons: First, not many Koha folks use the Live DVD, especially not the d

Re: [Koha] Live DVD (Was: Master-password (katikoan) and Live-DVD)

2013-05-21 Thread Owen Leonard
> my knowledge of Linux is growing but not sufficient to manage a full install > from > packages, so I'm using Vimar Kumal's Live-DVD to set up our system. I'm not an installation expert, but based on what smarter people than I have said, using the Live DVD instead of packages for production use