Re: [Kicad-developers] wxFormBuilder and the future

2015-08-21 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
Well this gives me some hope. :) We'll table this issue until after the stable release. Maybe wxFormBuilder development will start up again. If not we will have to make a decision. Thanks everyone for the input. Cheers, Wayne On 8/17/2015 5:02 PM, Chris Pavlina wrote: > Here, have another vot

Re: [Kicad-developers] wxFormBuilder and the future

2015-08-18 Thread Mário Luzeiro
02 To: kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] wxFormBuilder and the future Here, have another vote of confidence. Very few GUI builders aren't crap, and most are fairly inflexible. wx is not a difficult toolkit to work with in general and any developer who can write decent code sho

Re: [Kicad-developers] wxFormBuilder and the future

2015-08-18 Thread LordBlick
In response to a message written on 18.08.2015, 09:07, from John Devereux: Other projects such as QUCS already use Qt. wx is closer to gtk than to qt (easier to convert) and qt is for comercial tasks non-free… Read the licence. You read the license... :) (Its's LGPL basically) http://www.qt.

Re: [Kicad-developers] wxFormBuilder and the future

2015-08-18 Thread John Devereux
LordBlick writes: > W odpowiedzi na wiadomość z dnia 17.08.2015, 22:33, od timofonic timofonic: >> Hello. >> >> I'm not a developer at all, but I got curious about this. >> >> KiCad is 500KLOC and 80% of it is about GUI, right? Would rewriting >> dialog code >> by hand require to change a lot of

Re: [Kicad-developers] wxFormBuilder and the future

2015-08-17 Thread Chris Pavlina
Here, have another vote of confidence. Very few GUI builders aren't crap, and most are fairly inflexible. wx is not a difficult toolkit to work with in general and any developer who can write decent code should be able to interact with it directly. Perhaps it is not a bad thing for "can write w

Re: [Kicad-developers] wxFormBuilder and the future

2015-08-17 Thread Cirilo Bernardo
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 3:26 AM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > On 8/17/2015 9:14 AM, David Novak wrote: > >> To be honest, I've never been a big fan of dialog box layout tools. > >> Their strength is there weakness. They promote designing quick dialog > >> box layouts that makes reuse difficult. Tak

Re: [Kicad-developers] wxFormBuilder and the future

2015-08-17 Thread LordBlick
W odpowiedzi na wiadomość z dnia 17.08.2015, 22:33, od timofonic timofonic: Hello. I'm not a developer at all, but I got curious about this. KiCad is 500KLOC and 80% of it is about GUI, right? Would rewriting dialog code by hand require to change a lot of code too? Would it reduce LOC? I see L

Re: [Kicad-developers] wxFormBuilder and the future

2015-08-17 Thread timofonic timofonic
Hello. I'm not a developer at all, but I got curious about this. KiCad is 500KLOC and 80% of it is about GUI, right? Would rewriting dialog code by hand require to change a lot of code too? Would it reduce LOC? I see Libreoffice has some kind of similar issue, but the situation is even worse. It

Re: [Kicad-developers] wxFormBuilder and the future

2015-08-17 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 8/17/2015 9:14 AM, David Novak wrote: >> To be honest, I've never been a big fan of dialog box layout tools. >> Their strength is there weakness. They promote designing quick dialog >> box layouts that makes reuse difficult. Take a look at the padding and >> overall layout in KiCad's dialogs.

Re: [Kicad-developers] wxFormBuilder and the future

2015-08-17 Thread Marco Ciampa
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 09:14:43AM -0400, David Novak wrote: > >To be honest, I've never been a big fan of dialog box layout tools. > >Their strength is there weakness. They promote designing quick dialog > >box layouts that makes reuse difficult. Take a look at the padding and > >overall layout

Re: [Kicad-developers] wxFormBuilder and the future

2015-08-17 Thread David Novak
To be honest, I've never been a big fan of dialog box layout tools. Their strength is there weakness. They promote designing quick dialog box layouts that makes reuse difficult. Take a look at the padding and overall layout in KiCad's dialogs. They are all over the map. I prefer hand coding di

Re: [Kicad-developers] wxFormBuilder and the future

2015-08-13 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 8/13/2015 2:05 PM, jp charras wrote: > Le 13/08/2015 18:36, Eldar Khayrullin a écrit : >> Hi all. >> Maybe in future need to port kicad in other modern gui as qt( >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_(software) ) > > A bit overkilled for this issue (if this is an issue). > I am not especially

Re: [Kicad-developers] wxFormBuilder and the future

2015-08-13 Thread jp charras
Le 13/08/2015 18:36, Eldar Khayrullin a écrit : > Hi all. > Maybe in future need to port kicad in other modern gui as qt( > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_(software) ) A bit overkilled for this issue (if this is an issue). I am not especially thrilled by QT. This is a very good tool, but it has

Re: [Kicad-developers] wxFormBuilder and the future

2015-08-13 Thread Eldar Khayrullin
Hi all. Maybe in future need to port kicad in other modern gui as qt( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_(software) ) 13.08.2015 13:00, Blair Bonnett пишет: Hi all, It appears wxFormBuilder is, if not dead, not far from it. The evidence: * No stable release in 4 years, and the last beta releas

Re: [Kicad-developers] wxFormBuilder and the future

2015-08-13 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 13.08.2015 12:00, Blair Bonnett wrote: > * No developer responses on the mailing list, including to a message > three months ago [1] asking if the project was still active. Hm, when I filed a bug asking for wxDataViewColumn support, that was added quickly. Simon signature.asc Descr

[Kicad-developers] wxFormBuilder and the future

2015-08-13 Thread Blair Bonnett
Hi all, It appears wxFormBuilder is, if not dead, not far from it. The evidence: * No stable release in 4 years, and the last beta release was 13 months ago. * A grand total of 13 commits in the last 12 months (current trunk is r2205, r2192 was made on 1 August 2014). A number of these are builds