Re: [Kicad-developers] UI and usability enhancement

2015-09-25 Thread LordBlick
In response to a message written on 25.09.2015, 00:19, from timofonic timofonic: Some more feedback. Just filter to get the relevant stuff, don't care about people sometimes acting rude. Maybe between that, there might be useful feedback. http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=55079.0 Ver

Re: [Kicad-developers] UI and usability enhancement

2015-09-24 Thread timofonic timofonic
Some more feedback. Just filter to get the relevant stuff, don't care about people sometimes acting rude. Maybe between that, there might be useful feedback. http://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=55079.0 Version 4 stable branch rc1 released. On Aug 31, 2015 10:07 PM, "Attila Kinali" wrote

Re: [Kicad-developers] UI and usability enhancement

2015-08-31 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 22:02:08 +0200 Attila Kinali wrote: > i would select the part, either "generic opamp" to be specified later, > an "AD8602*" for which i'd select a footprint later, or an "AD" > which is the variant in a SOIC-8 case. And automagically, it would adjust > the pin numbering in the

Re: [Kicad-developers] UI and usability enhancement

2015-08-31 Thread Attila Kinali
Hoi Tomasz, On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 18:40:14 +0200 Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: > @both: don't forget that some of the improvements that look simple ( > retaining nets for vias/traces, property editor or undo while drawing a > trace) require some substantial rework of PCBnew internals (e.g. > redesign o

Re: [Kicad-developers] UI and usability enhancement

2015-08-31 Thread Tomasz Wlostowski
_ > From: Kicad-developers > [kicad-developers-bounces+mrluzeiro=ua...@lists.launchpad.net] on behalf of > Attila Kinali [att...@kinali.ch] > Sent: 31 August 2015 16:15 > To: kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net > Subj

Re: [Kicad-developers] UI and usability enhancement

2015-08-31 Thread Andrew Bradford
Hi Chris, On 08/31 15:46, Chris Goddard wrote: > On 31/08/15 15:15, Attila Kinali wrote: > >An example where Kicad fails with external consistency is the use of the > >mouse wheel. While all EDA, CAD and simple drawing applications I've used > >in the past have the following mapping: > > > >wheel

Re: [Kicad-developers] UI and usability enhancement

2015-08-31 Thread yann jautard
Le 31/08/2015 16:46, Chris Goddard a écrit : On 31/08/15 15:15, Attila Kinali wrote: An example where Kicad fails with external consistency is the use of the mouse wheel. While all EDA, CAD and simple drawing applications I've used in the past have the following mapping: wheel ->

Re: [Kicad-developers] UI and usability enhancement

2015-08-31 Thread yann jautard
I would like to add an idea : would be great to have a way to select precisely the insertion point when copying a block in pcbnew or modedit. Like you have in most CAD drawing tools. Le 31/08/2015 16:15, Attila Kinali a écrit : On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 00:09:06 +0200 Attila Kinali wrote: So, I

Re: [Kicad-developers] UI and usability enhancement

2015-08-31 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 15:23:02 + Mário Luzeiro wrote: > I just give an quick overlook on that, I think one thing was not mentioned > was the consistency on the edition of parameters. > (For example the way that you insert a value of some type (ex a diameter, or > a position) is different depend

Re: [Kicad-developers] UI and usability enhancement

2015-08-31 Thread Ben Hest
Just for evaluation. Mentor Designer Schematic Capture > wheel zoom Mentor Designer Layout > ctrl+wheel zoom PCBWeb > wheel zoom Diptrace > wheel zoom NI Ultiboard > wheel zoom Upverter > wheel zoom EasyEDA > wheel zoom Eagle > Wheel zoom Altium > ctrl+wheel zoom On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 9:53 AM

Re: [Kicad-developers] UI and usability enhancement

2015-08-31 Thread Bob Gustafson
I vote for having a qualifier key to tweek the meaning of the mouse wheel. Touching the mouse wheel and having the design zoom to 3 pixel size or huge size is not productive. Bob G On 08/31/2015 09:53 AM, Mark Roszko wrote: The mouse wheel and navigation (as mentioned above). Make it con

Re: [Kicad-developers] UI and usability enhancement

2015-08-31 Thread Mário Luzeiro
cents. Mario Luzeiro From: Kicad-developers [kicad-developers-bounces+mrluzeiro=ua...@lists.launchpad.net] on behalf of Attila Kinali [att...@kinali.ch] Sent: 31 August 2015 16:15 To: kicad-developers@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Kicad-developers] UI and usability enhancement On Wed,

Re: [Kicad-developers] UI and usability enhancement

2015-08-31 Thread Mark Roszko
>The mouse wheel and navigation (as mentioned above). Make it consistent with other EDA, CAD and drawing applications: wheel -> up/down, shift-wheel -> left/right, ctrl-wheel -> zoom I disagree, EAGLE uses mouse wheel zoom and it is by far one of the most widely used tools these days. On Mon

Re: [Kicad-developers] UI and usability enhancement

2015-08-31 Thread Chris Goddard
On 31/08/15 15:15, Attila Kinali wrote: An example where Kicad fails with external consistency is the use of the mouse wheel. While all EDA, CAD and simple drawing applications I've used in the past have the following mapping: wheel -> up/down shift-wheel -> left/right ctrl-whe

Re: [Kicad-developers] UI and usability enhancement

2015-08-31 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 00:09:06 +0200 Attila Kinali wrote: > So, I would like to ask, whether there would be any interest of the > developers to work on the UI. If so, I would start collecting > points on the UI that are worth to work on and how to improve them. Ok, here is a list of the things I s

Re: [Kicad-developers] UI and usability enhancement

2015-08-12 Thread Nick Østergaard
FWIW. I rember some time ago, there were a guy listing some good points on this list, you might be able to find that message by searching for usability. 2015-08-12 22:52 GMT+02:00 Javier Serrano : > On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: > >> So, I would like to ask, whether there

Re: [Kicad-developers] UI and usability enhancement

2015-08-12 Thread Javier Serrano
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: > So, I would like to ask, whether there would be any interest of the > developers to work on the UI. If so, I would start collecting > points on the UI that are worth to work on and how to improve them. Hi Attila, working on the UI is in th

[Kicad-developers] UI and usability enhancement

2015-08-11 Thread Attila Kinali
Hi, I have been using kicad for the last couple of days and I have gotten the impression that kicad has a quite usable GUI, but there are lots of places where it could do better. Most of these are just small things, a little bit more info here, one additional button there, etc pp. I would like to