Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

On 09/19/2013 02:14 PM, Miguel Angel wrote: > > So dick, if I'm not understanding the wrong thing, one of your concerns is, > that if we let > other make "plugins" in scripting, that probably won't come back as a > contribution? > > May be I'm plain wrong, but a piece of code that links (even d

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

On 09/19/2013 10:47 AM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: > On 09/19/2013 05:35 PM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: >> On 09/19/2013 09:29 AM, Miguel Angel wrote: >>> Ok, summarizing all the feedback: >>> >>> I'd defer this blueprint proposal, and switch it into something like: >>> >>> * Making a generic system wide

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

So dick, if I'm not understanding the wrong thing, one of your concerns is, that if we let other make "plugins" in scripting, that probably won't come back as a contribution? May be I'm plain wrong, but a piece of code that links (even dynamically) to our binary, should be GPL/compatible license,

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

Great Wayne, Thanks a lot for your hard work. Let us know as soon as it's ready. I will keep my mind thinking on how to QA kicad better, and I can get back into this when I see your work :) 2013/9/19 Wayne Stambaugh > On 9/19/2013 11:35 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: > > On 09/19/2013 09:29

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

On 9/19/2013 12:51 PM, Miguel Angel wrote: > > > Great Wayne, > >Thanks a lot for your hard work. Your welcome. I just wish it didn't take so long to get it done. > > Let us know as soon as it's ready. I will keep my mind thinking on how > to QA kicad better, and I can get back into

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

2013/9/19 Dick Hollenbeck > On 09/19/2013 09:29 AM, Miguel Angel wrote: > > Ok, summarizing all the feedback: > > > > I'd defer this blueprint proposal, and switch it into something like: > > > > * Making a generic system wide plugin load system, > > (load/unload/reload/enumerate/instantiate). S

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

On 9/19/2013 11:35 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: > On 09/19/2013 09:29 AM, Miguel Angel wrote: >> Ok, summarizing all the feedback: >> >> I'd defer this blueprint proposal, and switch it into something like: >> >> * Making a generic system wide plugin load system, >> (load/unload/reload/enumerate/ins

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

On 9/19/2013 10:37 AM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: > On 09/19/2013 04:31 PM, Miguel Angel wrote: >> Clarification: making it generic means that we share the base class for >> KICAD_PLUGINs and that we share the code for the manager. >> >> Not that I intend to load pcbnew plugins into eeschema, or the

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

On 09/19/2013 05:35 PM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: On 09/19/2013 09:29 AM, Miguel Angel wrote: Ok, summarizing all the feedback: I'd defer this blueprint proposal, and switch it into something like: * Making a generic system wide plugin load system, (load/unload/reload/enumerate/instantiate). Su

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

2013/9/19 Tomasz Wlostowski > On 09/19/2013 04:29 PM, Miguel Angel wrote: > >> Ok, summarizing all the feedback: >> >> I'd defer this blueprint proposal, and switch it into something like: >> >> * Making a generic system wide plugin load system, >> (load/unload/reload/enumerate/**instantiate).

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

On 09/19/2013 04:53 PM, Miguel Angel wrote: 2013/9/19 Tomasz Wlostowski Miguel, Thanks for the explanation. Now I understand your idea and I fully agree :) I'm not sure if that was your concern. My 5 cents for the plugin type list: - S3D_MODEL_PLUGIN for loading VRML/STEP/IGES, I

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

On 09/19/2013 09:29 AM, Miguel Angel wrote: > Ok, summarizing all the feedback: > > I'd defer this blueprint proposal, and switch it into something like: > > * Making a generic system wide plugin load system, > (load/unload/reload/enumerate/instantiate). Supporting statically loaded C++ > plugi

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

On 09/19/2013 04:31 PM, Miguel Angel wrote: Clarification: making it generic means that we share the base class for KICAD_PLUGINs and that we share the code for the manager. Not that I intend to load pcbnew plugins into eeschema, or the other way around.. which wouldn't have much sense. How ab

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

Ok, summarizing all the feedback: I'd defer this blueprint proposal, and switch it into something like: * Making a generic system wide plugin load system, (load/unload/reload/enumerate/instantiate). Supporting statically loaded C++ plugins, and dynamically loaded python plugins. KICAD_PLUGIN /|

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

2013/9/19 Dick Hollenbeck > Miguel, > > I can only see two references to goals (stated problems which need > solutions) in the > current design: > > ---1) load plugins that KiCad has never seen before, or does not know > about in advance. > > Well, it must really know in advance about them (havin

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

On 09/19/2013 04:29 PM, Miguel Angel wrote: Ok, summarizing all the feedback: I'd defer this blueprint proposal, and switch it into something like: * Making a generic system wide plugin load system, (load/unload/reload/enumerate/instantiate). Supporting statically loaded C++ plugins, and dyna

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

Clarification: making it generic means that we share the base class for KICAD_PLUGINs and that we share the code for the manager. Not that I intend to load pcbnew plugins into eeschema, or the other way around.. which wouldn't have much sense. Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo http://www.nbee.es +34 636 5

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

Miguel, I can only see two references to goals (stated problems which need solutions) in the current design: ---1) load plugins that KiCad has never seen before, or does not know about in advance. ---2) load python plugins. Are you trying to address any other issues? My responses to the 2 g

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

I have included Tom proposal as an extension to my original draft, it's a little bit more intrusive, but may be it can be the seed for generalistic plugins in KiCAD. The draft, original version http://pads.kicad-pcb.org/p/plugable-file-io/timeslider#1279 (if the #1279 is not working, just go to t

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

Hi Dick, No need to apologize, anyway I really appreciate the ping back... I'm still thinking on the Tomasz suggestions, so, may be this night I will do a 2nd round on the idea to include his design, which seems more abstracted/general than my original draft. About the "options", sometimes

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

On 09/16/2013 02:21 AM, Miguel Angel wrote: > I have drafted a blueprint, on how we could implement a pluggable IO modules. > > _https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kicad/+spec/pluggable-file-io_ > > If you have a moment, please give it a read, and comment on this thread or > edit over the > draft

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

Hi Tomasz, thanks a lot for reading & comments. 2013/9/16 Tomasz Wlostowski > On 09/16/2013 09:21 AM, Miguel Angel wrote: > >> _https://blueprints.launchpad.**net/kicad/+spec/pluggable-**file-io_ >> >> Hi Miguel, > > Looks good, I

Re: [Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

On 09/16/2013 09:21 AM, Miguel Angel wrote: I have drafted a blueprint, on how we could implement a pluggable IO modules. _https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kicad/+spec/pluggable-file-io_ If you have a moment, please give it a read, and comment on this thread or edit over the draft if you feel s

[Kicad-developers] Pluggable IO modules

I have drafted a blueprint, on how we could implement a pluggable IO modules. *https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kicad/+spec/pluggable-file-io* If you have a moment, please give it a read, and comment on this thread or edit over the draft if you feel something is plain wrong. Dick, I really appre