Re: [Kicad-developers] Altium 20 new interactive routing features

On 02.12.19 22:25, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: > On 02/12/2019 21:51, Kliment (Future Bits) wrote: >> The video looks very much like to me like the trace is following a >> voronoi cell boundary with cells coming out from each obstacle outline >> vertex. But what do I know? Maybe I'm just imagining thi

Re: [Kicad-developers] Altium 20 new interactive routing features

On 03/12/2019 02:43, Mark Roszko wrote: > Just throw in a linear regression somewhere and we can say KiCad has > AI based routing ;) > Our GAL does a lot of matrix multiplications. We could perhaps advertise KiCad as the first EDA tool with a Deep Learning Techniques-based rendering engine ;-).

Re: [Kicad-developers] Altium 20 new interactive routing features

Just throw in a linear regression somewhere and we can say KiCad has AI based routing ;) On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:25 PM Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: > > On 02/12/2019 21:51, Kliment (Future Bits) wrote: > > The video looks very much like to me like the trace is following a > > voronoi cell boundary w

Re: [Kicad-developers] Altium 20 new interactive routing features

On 02/12/2019 21:51, Kliment (Future Bits) wrote: > The video looks very much like to me like the trace is following a > voronoi cell boundary with cells coming out from each obstacle outline > vertex. But what do I know? Maybe I'm just imagining things. Maybe you're right ;-) I admire your abilit

Re: [Kicad-developers] Altium 20 new interactive routing features

I installed AD20 to play around a bit. The new any-angle mode so far works as advertised, it is quite smooth and responsive. The video may be pre-planned but I don't think it's heavily edited. The router seems to update the proposed path at every grid step, so if you set a small grid the updates

Re: [Kicad-developers] Altium 20 new interactive routing features

On 02.12.19 21:37, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: > All of this is true - for autorouters. This whole thread started with > Altium's videos about the improvements to their interactive > (semi-manual) router. P&S actually use very few strictly topological > concepts (in the case of Kicad P&S, mainly in t

Re: [Kicad-developers] Altium 20 new interactive routing features

On 02/12/2019 19:15, Kliment (Future Bits) wrote: > Ignoring the bovine references and attempting to answer the question: > > Topological routing means using the connectivity graph of the system to > generate geometrical constraints, and also to generate specific geometry > for say traces or polyg

Re: [Kicad-developers] Altium 20 new interactive routing features

Ignoring the bovine references and attempting to answer the question: Topological routing means using the connectivity graph of the system to generate geometrical constraints, and also to generate specific geometry for say traces or polygons. It's called that because it uses concepts from the disc

Re: [Kicad-developers] Altium 20 new interactive routing features

Tomasz Wlostowski kirjoitti 2.12.2019 klo 18.59: > Could you please explain what 'topological routing' does mean (other > than being marketing buzzword used by some companies) and what exactly > it has to do with topology [1]? This must be a case of missed quotation marks on my behalf, but also:

Re: [Kicad-developers] Altium 20 new interactive routing features

On Mon, 2 Dec 2019, 18:14 Seth Hillbrand, wrote: > On 12/2/19 9:10 AM, José Ignacio wrote: > > Cows (like most mammals) are toruses though... > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 11:06 AM Wayne Stambaugh > wrote: > >> On 12/2/19 11:59 AM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: >> > On 02/12/2019 17:40, Vesa Solonen wro

Re: [Kicad-developers] Altium 20 new interactive routing features

On 12/2/19 9:10 AM, José Ignacio wrote: Cows (like most mammals) are toruses though... On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 11:06 AM Wayne Stambaugh > wrote: On 12/2/19 11:59 AM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: > On 02/12/2019 17:40, Vesa Solonen wrote: >> topological routi

Re: [Kicad-developers] Altium 20 new interactive routing features

On 02/12/2019 18:10, José Ignacio wrote: > Cows (like most mammals) are toruses though... Well, if you'd take circulatory and lymphatic systems into account, they actually are higher order manifolds ;-) T. > > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 11:06 AM Wayne Stambaugh > wrote

Re: [Kicad-developers] Altium 20 new interactive routing features

Cows (like most mammals) are toruses though... On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 11:06 AM Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > On 12/2/19 11:59 AM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: > > On 02/12/2019 17:40, Vesa Solonen wrote: > >> topological routing will > > > > Could you please explain what 'topological routing' does mean (

Re: [Kicad-developers] Altium 20 new interactive routing features

On 12/2/19 11:59 AM, Tomasz Wlostowski wrote: > On 02/12/2019 17:40, Vesa Solonen wrote: >> topological routing will > > Could you please explain what 'topological routing' does mean (other > than being marketing buzzword used by some companies) and what exactly > it has to do with topology [1]? >

Re: [Kicad-developers] Altium 20 new interactive routing features

On 02/12/2019 17:40, Vesa Solonen wrote: > topological routing will Could you please explain what 'topological routing' does mean (other than being marketing buzzword used by some companies) and what exactly it has to do with topology [1]? Tom [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topology __

Re: [Kicad-developers] Altium 20 new interactive routing features

Jon Evans kirjoitti 2.12.2019 klo 17.49: > Check out the first two videos "Any Angle Routing" and "Sliding" - some > interesting concepts. I haven't played with them in real life yet. This is what topological routing will provide. There is some open source stuff at http://www.ssalewski.de/Route

[Kicad-developers] Altium 20 new interactive routing features

https://www.altium.com/altium-designer/whats-new Check out the first two videos "Any Angle Routing" and "Sliding" - some interesting concepts. I haven't played with them in real life yet. -Jon ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Po