[Kicad-developers] TokenList2DsnLexer.cmake

2010-06-14 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
Wayne, Attached is a patch against TokenList2DsnLexer.cmake that I would like to commit. The script takes an additional *optional* parameter named "enum" which if provided will give the name of the enum which is declared. It seemed like if multiple generated headers were included into a single s

[Kicad-developers] Imported Buglist

2010-06-14 Thread Stephen Eaton
Ok I've started (as I get spare time throughout the day) working my way through the imported bugs. I'll mark the ones I'm closing as incomplete so they can expire. What do you want me to do with bugs that have attached patches? As they have been patched against sourceforge SVN are they stil

[Kicad-developers] BOM processing (was Re: Default Field names patch)

2010-06-14 Thread Werner Almesberger
[ Belatedly changed the subject, to look better in that thread hijacking trial. ] Thanks for your description. Now I understand better where those "heavy symbols" come from. Okay, not crazy. Not at all. But still flawed ;-) I agree that CPNs make things a lot easier, but managing them also has

Re: [Kicad-developers] sourceforge bugs now imported, Fwd:

2010-06-14 Thread Stephen Eaton
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Re: [Kicad-developers] Default Field names patch

2010-06-14 Thread Karl Schmidt
Werner Almesberger wrote: Wayne Stambaugh wrote: I like being able to embed this information into my schematics. I'm still puzzled what you're doing where this approach wouldn't turn into a nightmare before too long :) Good points - but - to share some experience over some decades of using c

Re: [Kicad-developers] Default Field names patch

2010-06-14 Thread Brian Sidebotham
Hi All, Dick, your improvement makes a lot of sense. I think I'm right in thinking that what my patch would do in the case of importing a 3rd party library would be to import the field names from that library, without adding the template field names . Being able to add the template field names on

Re: [Kicad-developers] Default Field names patch

2010-06-14 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 06/14/2010 12:42 PM, Werner Almesberger wrote: > Dick Hollenbeck wrote: > >> You seem to be especially concerned about a manufacturer field within >> the symbol becoming obsolete. >> > Yes, or the field having an almost arbitrary value from a vast > set, e.g., in the "any 100 k resistor"

Re: [Kicad-developers] Default Field names patch

2010-06-14 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 06/14/2010 12:05 PM, Werner Almesberger wrote: > Dick Hollenbeck wrote: > >> You have good reading comprehension. >> > Heh, thanks :-) > > >> "template" aka "wanted", not "wanted" aka "template". The distinction >> is important since I have started coding it, and the source reflects

Re: [Kicad-developers] Default Field names patch

2010-06-14 Thread Werner Almesberger
Dick Hollenbeck wrote: > You seem to be especially concerned about a manufacturer field within > the symbol becoming obsolete. Yes, or the field having an almost arbitrary value from a vast set, e.g., in the "any 100 k resistor" case. > But for the mean time WRT template fieldnames, you are not r

Re: [Kicad-developers] Default Field names patch

2010-06-14 Thread Werner Almesberger
Dick Hollenbeck wrote: > You have good reading comprehension. Heh, thanks :-) > "template" aka "wanted", not "wanted" aka "template". The distinction > is important since I have started coding it, and the source reflects the > latter term. Good. I like "template" much better than "wanted" as we

Re: [Kicad-developers] Default Field names patch

2010-06-14 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 06/14/2010 10:18 AM, Werner Almesberger wrote: > Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > >> I like being able to embed this information into my schematics. >> > I'm still puzzled what you're doing where this approach wouldn't > turn into a nightmare before too long :) > > Let's see. If you have multipl

Re: [Kicad-developers] Default Field names patch

2010-06-14 Thread Werner Almesberger
Wayne Stambaugh wrote: > I like being able to embed this information into my schematics. I'm still puzzled what you're doing where this approach wouldn't turn into a nightmare before too long :) Let's see. If you have multiple instances of the same component, let's say the ubiquitous 100 kOhm 5%

Re: [Kicad-developers] Default Field names patch

2010-06-14 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 06/14/2010 06:59 AM, Werner Almesberger wrote: > Dick Hollenbeck wrote: > >> [...] "Installed" (e.g. value=DNS) [...] >> > What would you think of elevating "Installed" (or whatever it > would be called in the end) to the rank of Footprint ? I.e., a > permanent field with an immutable na

Re: [Kicad-developers] Default Field names patch

2010-06-14 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
On 06/14/2010 04:39 AM, Werner Almesberger wrote: Werner, You have good reading comprehension. I make only a few clarifications below. > Let me see if I got all the bits in your description: > > "default" field names: > - are hard-coded (or equivalent) into KiCad, > - can be overridden by "want

[Kicad-developers] sourceforge bugs now imported, Fwd:

2010-06-14 Thread Dick Hollenbeck
Original Message Subject:Re: [Question #106874]: Please convert bug database from sorurceforge.net Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:50:57 - From: Graham Binns Reply-To: question106...@answers.launchpad.net To: d...@softplc.com Your question #106874 on Laun

Re: [Kicad-developers] Default Field names patch

2010-06-14 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 6/14/2010 5:39 AM, Werner Almesberger wrote: > Let me see if I got all the bits in your description: > > "default" field names: > - are hard-coded (or equivalent) into KiCad, > - can be overridden by "wanted" or "user-defined" field names. > > "wanted" aka "template" field names: > - are assig

Re: [Kicad-developers] Default Field names patch

2010-06-14 Thread Wayne Stambaugh
On 6/14/2010 12:14 AM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: > On 06/13/2010 07:30 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote: >> On 6/13/2010 4:24 PM, Dick Hollenbeck wrote: >> >>> On 06/10/2010 04:35 AM, Brian Sidebotham wrote: >>> > Thanks for handling this. I probably wouldn't be able to get to it for > at le

Re: [Kicad-developers] Another thing about module format

2010-06-14 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Werner Almesberger wrote: Hmm, but if you use it mainly for rework, adjacent components could share the courtyard, no ? After all, you'll inspect or (de)solder them one by one, not simultaneously. It would be difficult to say 'how much' they can overlap... I think they cal

Re: [Kicad-developers] Default Field names patch

2010-06-14 Thread Werner Almesberger
Dick Hollenbeck wrote: > [...] "Installed" (e.g. value=DNS) [...] What would you think of elevating "Installed" (or whatever it would be called in the end) to the rank of Footprint ? I.e., a permanent field with an immutable name. That way, eeschema could automaticaly flag absent components, e.g.

Re: [Kicad-developers] Another thing about module format

2010-06-14 Thread Werner Almesberger
Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote: > Only another playground... its the "bounding tile" of the component, Hmm, but if you use it mainly for rework, adjacent components could share the courtyard, no ? After all, you'll inspect or (de)solder them one by one, not simultaneously. Also, what do you do with co

Re: [Kicad-developers] Another thing about module format

2010-06-14 Thread Werner Almesberger
I wrote: > What would constitute an invasion of the "playground" ? BTW, here are some thoughts on clearance (for electrical reasons, but much of this should also apply to mechanical clearance): http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/gta02-core/2009-September/000583.html Only the list at the beginnin

Re: [Kicad-developers] Another thing about module format

2010-06-14 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010, Werner Almesberger wrote: Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote: The playground should be a simple bounding box, but manually defined (since, for example, BGA requires a lot of tooling space for inspection and replacement, while a simple MLCC only needs space for tweezers) What would

Re: [Kicad-developers] Another thing about module format

2010-06-14 Thread Werner Almesberger
Lorenzo Marcantonio wrote: > The playground should be a simple bounding box, but manually defined > (since, for example, BGA requires a lot of tooling space for inspection > and replacement, while a simple MLCC only needs space for tweezers) What would constitute an invasion of the "playground" ?

Re: [Kicad-developers] Default Field names patch

2010-06-14 Thread Werner Almesberger
Let me see if I got all the bits in your description: "default" field names: - are hard-coded (or equivalent) into KiCad, - can be overridden by "wanted" or "user-defined" field names. "wanted" aka "template" field names: - are assigned by a global (user-wide or even site-wide) configuration, - a

[Kicad-developers] Another thing about module format

2010-06-14 Thread Lorenzo Marcantonio
Another thing while you're working on the module format: It would be useful the so-called 'playground', i.e. a bounding box comprising the required reworking space. It could be even used during DRC for detecting overlapped components. The playground should be a simple bounding box, but manually