Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-09 Thread Lamarque Souza
Hi, Sure I think they are, I am asking all those questions about dependencies and implications of adding the libraries to KF5 because of that too. I just want to make sure the other developers still think the same. I did not make that decision alone back in 2011 in Madrid. I think they are useful

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-09 Thread Lamarque Souza
Ok, so let's go make a better NMQt/MMQt :-) Lamarque V. Souza KDE's Network Management maintainer http://planetkde.org/pt-br On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:44 AM, Jan Grulich wrote: > Hi, > > On Wednesday 09 of April 2014 07:20 Kevin Ottens wrote: > > Hello, > > > > On Tuesday 08 April 2014 19:51:

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-09 Thread Alex Merry
On 08/04/14 23:51, Lamarque Souza wrote: > Hi, > > I understood that, I just do not know all the other things we need to > do to make NMQt/MMQt part of KF5. And yes, I agree in making NMQt/MMQt > part of KF5. The other doubt I still have is where > _kde_add_platform_definitions is defined. By wh

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-08 Thread Jan Grulich
Hi, On Wednesday 09 of April 2014 07:20 Kevin Ottens wrote: > Hello, > > On Tuesday 08 April 2014 19:51:05 Lamarque Souza wrote: > > I understood that, I just do not know all the other things we need to do > > > > to make NMQt/MMQt part of KF5. And yes, I agree in making NMQt/MMQt part > > of >

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-08 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello, On Tuesday 08 April 2014 19:51:05 Lamarque Souza wrote: > I understood that, I just do not know all the other things we need to do > to make NMQt/MMQt part of KF5. And yes, I agree in making NMQt/MMQt part of > KF5. The other doubt I still have is where _kde_add_platform_definitions > is

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-08 Thread Lamarque Souza
Hi, I understood that, I just do not know all the other things we need to do to make NMQt/MMQt part of KF5. And yes, I agree in making NMQt/MMQt part of KF5. The other doubt I still have is where _kde_add_platform_definitions is defined. By what I could figure out it is not in ECM, so something

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-07 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014, at 6:05, Lamarque Souza wrote: > How are they are going to change? The "etc" here is important too. > Remember > that NMQt follows NetworkManager's release numbers, the same is true for > MMQt and ModemManager. That is for simplify things for those who are used > to NetworkMana

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-07 Thread Mario Fux
Am Montag, 07. April 2014, 14.38:14 schrieb Lamarque Souza: > Hi all, Morning Lamarque > I have cloned ECM git repo and looked at it. I agree that it is small and > it has useful features for NMQt/MMQt. I like the fact that it provides a > FindNetworkManager.cmake. Ok, we can make ECM a hard depe

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-07 Thread Lamarque Souza
How are they are going to change? The "etc" here is important too. Remember that NMQt follows NetworkManager's release numbers, the same is true for MMQt and ModemManager. That is for simplify things for those who are used to NetworkManager's release number, I prefer to keep that. Is there any docu

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-07 Thread Jan Grulich
Do you agree also with making libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KDE Frameworks? That means probably change versions, releasing etc. Jan On Monday 07 of April 2014 09:38 Lamarque Souza wrote: > Hi all, > > I have cloned ECM git repo and looked at it. I agree that it is small and > it has useful features for

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-07 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014, at 5:38, Lamarque Souza wrote: > Hi all, > > I have cloned ECM git repo and looked at it. I agree that it is small and > it has useful features for NMQt/MMQt. I like the fact that it provides a > FindNetworkManager.cmake. Ok, we can make ECM a hard dependency for > NMQt/MMQt.

Re: Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-07 Thread Lamarque Souza
Hi all, I have cloned ECM git repo and looked at it. I agree that it is small and it has useful features for NMQt/MMQt. I like the fact that it provides a FindNetworkManager.cmake. Ok, we can make ECM a hard dependency for NMQt/MMQt. My only concern now is the kde-modules that Jan used in NMQt/MM

Re: Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-07 Thread Martin Gräßlin
On Monday 07 April 2014 10:14:12 David Faure wrote: > On Monday 07 April 2014 09:47:43 Jan Grulich wrote: > > You are still talking about users, but I'm sure that 99% of them will > > install it from distro repositories and because e-c-m is build dependency, > > they won't notice that. For remainin

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-07 Thread David Faure
On Monday 07 April 2014 09:47:43 Jan Grulich wrote: > You are still talking about users, but I'm sure that 99% of them will > install it from distro repositories and because e-c-m is build dependency, > they won't notice that. For remaining 1% of users you are talking about > will be e-c-m availabl

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-07 Thread Jan Grulich
You are still talking about users, but I'm sure that 99% of them will install it from distro repositories and because e-c-m is build dependency, they won't notice that. For remaining 1% of users you are talking about will be e-c-m available from distro repositories as well, so what's the problem

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-05 Thread Lamarque Souza
Is using ECM required to be part of KF5? Lamarque V. Souza KDE's Network Management maintainer http://planetkde.org/pt-br On Sat, Apr 5, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote: > El Dissabte, 5 d'abril de 2014, a les 12:39:27, Lamarque Souza va escriure: > > In CMakeLists.txt: > > > > fi

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-05 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Dissabte, 5 d'abril de 2014, a les 12:39:27, Lamarque Souza va escriure: > In CMakeLists.txt: > > find_package(ECM 0.0.12 REQUIRED NO_MODULE) > include(KDEInstallDirs) > include(KDEFrameworkCompilerSettings) > include(KDECMakeSettings) > > The way it is now you need to install KF'5's cmake mo

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-05 Thread Lamarque Souza
In CMakeLists.txt: find_package(ECM 0.0.12 REQUIRED NO_MODULE) include(KDEInstallDirs) include(KDEFrameworkCompilerSettings) include(KDECMakeSettings) The way it is now you need to install KF'5's cmake modules to parse NMQt's CMakeLists.txt, nothing more from KF5 is used. In master branch we use

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-05 Thread Albert Astals Cid
El Divendres, 4 d'abril de 2014, a les 07:57:26, Lamarque Souza va escriure: > NMQt and MMQt used to be backends for Solid. We moved them from Solid so > they can be used by more people, even people that do not use KDE software. > Forcing everybody to install KF5 just to compile them does not sound

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-05 Thread Lamarque Souza
NMQt and MMQt used to be backends for Solid. We moved them from Solid so they can be used by more people, even people that do not use KDE software. Forcing everybody to install KF5 just to compile them does not sound a good thing to me. Imagine this talk with someone that want to use those librarie

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-05 Thread Lamarque Souza
Both libraries are meant to be reusable. What I meant with "merge" is the fact that the branches "frameworks" in NMQt and MMQt depends on KF5's cmake modules. I still want NMQt/MMQt usable for those that use Qt but not KDE's libraries (kdelibs and KF5). Lamarque V. Souza Em 04/04/2014 02:55, "Kevi

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-04 Thread Jan Grulich
And what is the problem depending on e-c-m? It's the base package, which will be available everywhere and being a part of KDE frameworks will make our libraries more visible and connected to KDE. We should be definitely part of frameworks, like Solid. Well, libnm-qt/libmm-qt are basically Solid

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-03 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello, On Thursday 03 April 2014 16:47:38 Jan Grulich wrote: > 1) How to name them? Until now we named them ModemManagerQt and > NetworkManagerQt, but if we add KF5 prefix, it would be maybe better to name > it only ModemManager/NetworkManager (with KF5 prefix), but there is a > problem, if you wi

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-03 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello, On Thursday 03 April 2014 20:19:45 Lamarque Souza wrote: > Well, NetworkManagerQt and ModemManagerQt are Qt only libraries since the > beginning. They are not meant to depend on any KDE libraries as I said, so > they are not meant to be merged to KF5. Note this is a blatant logic mistake.

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-03 Thread Lamarque Souza
Well, NetworkManagerQt and ModemManagerQt are Qt only libraries since the beginning. They are not meant to depend on any KDE libraries as I said, so they are not meant to be merged to KF5. I looked the branches frameworks and you basically did just that (make them depend on KF5). I think we should

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-03 Thread Lamarque Souza
Hi all, 1) I do not see a real need to rename (again) ModemManagerQt and NetworkManagerQt. They are named that way to indicate they depend only on Qt and not on any library created by KDE, so they are tier1 since the beginning. I am not familiar with KF5's library naming conventions but I would li

Re: libmm-qt/libnm-qt as KF5

2014-04-03 Thread Jan Grulich
On Thursday 03 of April 2014 12:52 Lamarque Souza wrote: > Hi all, > > 1) I do not see a real need to rename (again) ModemManagerQt and > NetworkManagerQt. They are named that way to indicate they depend only on > Qt and not on any library created by KDE, so they are tier1 since the > beginning. I