Re: kde4support => kdelibs4support[Was: Re: Releasing Deprecated modules and Tier 4 Definition]

2014-04-08 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Tuesday 08 April 2014 22:25:48 Ben Cooksley wrote: > On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Kevin Ottens wrote: > > Hello, > > Hi all, > > > On Thursday 03 April 2014 09:50:24 Jos Poortvliet wrote: > >> On Wednesday 19 March 2014 10:41:15 Ben Cooksley wrote: > >> > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:15 AM, K

Re: kde4support => kdelibs4support[Was: Re: Releasing Deprecated modules and Tier 4 Definition]

2014-04-08 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Kevin Ottens wrote: > Hello, Hi all, > > On Thursday 03 April 2014 09:50:24 Jos Poortvliet wrote: >> On Wednesday 19 March 2014 10:41:15 Ben Cooksley wrote: >> > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Kevin Ottens wrote: >> > > Hello, >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > > On Monda

Re: kde4support => kdelibs4support[Was: Re: Releasing Deprecated modules and Tier 4 Definition]

2014-04-03 Thread Jos Poortvliet
On Wednesday 19 March 2014 10:41:15 Ben Cooksley wrote: > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Kevin Ottens wrote: > > Hello, > > Hi, > > > On Monday 17 March 2014 22:53:25 Mario Fux KDE ML wrote: > >> Am Montag, 17. März 2014, 18.15:09 schrieb Kevin Ottens: > >> > Porting Aids: > >> > * kde4suppor

Re: kde4support => kdelibs4support[Was: Re: Releasing Deprecated modules and Tier 4 Definition]

2014-04-03 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello, On Thursday 03 April 2014 09:50:24 Jos Poortvliet wrote: > On Wednesday 19 March 2014 10:41:15 Ben Cooksley wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Kevin Ottens wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > Hi, > > > > > On Monday 17 March 2014 22:53:25 Mario Fux KDE ML wrote: > > >> Am Montag, 17. Mä

Re: kde4support => kdelibs4support[Was: Re: Releasing Deprecated modules and Tier 4 Definition]

2014-03-18 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Kevin Ottens wrote: > Hello, Hi, > > On Monday 17 March 2014 22:53:25 Mario Fux KDE ML wrote: >> Am Montag, 17. März 2014, 18.15:09 schrieb Kevin Ottens: >> > Porting Aids: >> > * kde4support (obvious); >> >> Just that it doesn't get forgotten I'd like to second

Re: kde4support => kdelibs4support[Was: Re: Releasing Deprecated modules and Tier 4 Definition]

2014-03-18 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello, On Monday 17 March 2014 22:53:25 Mario Fux KDE ML wrote: > Am Montag, 17. März 2014, 18.15:09 schrieb Kevin Ottens: > > Porting Aids: > > * kde4support (obvious); > > Just that it doesn't get forgotten I'd like to second Aarons (or who it was) > proposal to rename kde4support to kdelibs4s

Re: Releasing Deprecated modules and Tier 4 Definition

2014-03-17 Thread Alex Merry
On 17/03/14 18:50, Treeve Jelbert wrote: > On Monday 17 March 2014 18:15:09 Kevin Ottens wrote: > Now, the last point... What else do we want to move from KDE Frameworks to >> KDE Porting Aids? Aleix and Aaron proposed the following content for KDE >> Porting Aids: >> * kde4support (obvious); >>

kde4support => kdelibs4support[Was: Re: Releasing Deprecated modules and Tier 4 Definition]

2014-03-17 Thread Mario Fux KDE ML
Am Montag, 17. März 2014, 18.15:09 schrieb Kevin Ottens: > Hello, Morning Kevin > Thanks for the feedback! Thanks for your coordination! [snip] > Now, the last point... What else do we want to move from KDE Frameworks to > KDE Porting Aids? Aleix and Aaron proposed the following content for KD

Re: Releasing Deprecated modules and Tier 4 Definition

2014-03-17 Thread John Layt
On 17 March 2014 16:45, Alex Merry wrote: > On 17/03/14 15:25, Aurélien Gâteau wrote: >> What worries me with this approach is it feels like comparing apples and >> oranges here. To me a framework "tier" is about its dependencies, not >> about its maturity. I would suggest to instead introduce an

Re: Releasing Deprecated modules and Tier 4 Definition

2014-03-17 Thread Treeve Jelbert
On Monday 17 March 2014 18:15:09 Kevin Ottens wrote: Now, the last point... What else do we want to move from KDE Frameworks to > KDE Porting Aids? Aleix and Aaron proposed the following content for KDE > Porting Aids: > * kde4support (obvious); > * khtml (planned for a long time); > * kjs (bec

Re: Releasing Deprecated modules and Tier 4 Definition

2014-03-17 Thread Alex Merry
On 17/03/14 17:15, Kevin Ottens wrote: > Now, the last point... What else do we want to move from KDE Frameworks to > KDE > Porting Aids? Aleix and Aaron proposed the following content for KDE Porting > Aids: > * kde4support (obvious); > * khtml (planned for a long time); > * kjs (because of

Re: Releasing Deprecated modules and Tier 4 Definition

2014-03-17 Thread Christoph Cullmann
> Hello, > > Thanks for the feedback! > > Adding kde-promo in CC since it might have implications on future > communication. > > On Saturday 15 March 2014 16:59:54 Kevin Ottens wrote: > > Here are the different options, they're clearly not mutually exclusive. > > > > 1) Split Tier 4 in a Tier 4

Re: Releasing Deprecated modules and Tier 4 Definition

2014-03-17 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello, Thanks for the feedback! Adding kde-promo in CC since it might have implications on future communication. On Saturday 15 March 2014 16:59:54 Kevin Ottens wrote: > Here are the different options, they're clearly not mutually exclusive. > > 1) Split Tier 4 in a Tier 4 and a Tier Deprecate

Re: Releasing Deprecated modules and Tier 4 Definition

2014-03-17 Thread Alex Merry
On 17/03/14 15:25, Aurélien Gâteau wrote: > On Sat, Mar 15, 2014, at 8:59, Kevin Ottens wrote: >> 1) Split Tier 4 in a Tier 4 and a Tier Deprecated :) >> Currently we can consider Tier 4 as badly defined. It contains both parts >> with >> no API (apidox, frameworkintegration, kfileaudiopreview) ma

Re: Releasing Deprecated modules and Tier 4 Definition

2014-03-17 Thread Aurélien Gâteau
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014, at 8:59, Kevin Ottens wrote: > 1) Split Tier 4 in a Tier 4 and a Tier Deprecated :) > Currently we can consider Tier 4 as badly defined. It contains both parts > with > no API (apidox, frameworkintegration, kfileaudiopreview) mainly for > integration between frameworks and p

Re: Releasing Deprecated modules and Tier 4 Definition

2014-03-17 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Saturday, March 15, 2014 16:59:54 Kevin Ottens wrote: > we would be releasing 5.0 with modules which would be immediately > deprecated. the modules that i am aware of include: * kde4support * khtml * kjs * kjsembed * krunner there are a few others that are imho borderline cases (kmediaplay

Re: Releasing Deprecated modules and Tier 4 Definition

2014-03-17 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:43:12 David Faure wrote: > There's a middle ground between "actively maintain" and "we made it > completely impossible to even fix one bug". at which point the person(s) doing the bug fixes can take on the project an handle releases. it is free software: people can fo

Re: Releasing Deprecated modules and Tier 4 Definition

2014-03-16 Thread David Faure
On Saturday 15 March 2014 16:59:54 Kevin Ottens wrote: > Hello all, > > This week, Aaron brought to my attention (thx!) that we would be releasing > 5.0 with modules which would be immediately deprecated. Indeed that's a > potential maintenance and messaging problem. Do you have a list of such mo

Re: Releasing Deprecated modules and Tier 4 Definition

2014-03-15 Thread Aleix Pol
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Kevin Ottens wrote: > Hello all, > > This week, Aaron brought to my attention (thx!) that we would be releasing > 5.0 > with modules which would be immediately deprecated. Indeed that's a > potential > maintenance and messaging problem. > Also, to make things wors