Proposal unify back our release schedules

2024-04-19 Thread Carl Schwan
Hello Community, I know this might be a controversial idea, but I would like to propose reunify our release schedules. I feel like splitting our releases schedules between Frameworks, Plasma and Gear is not working as well as we intended it to be when we split the releases schedules for Plasma 5.

Re: Proposal unify back our release schedules

2024-04-19 Thread Nate Graham
Thanks for taking the time to assemble this email, Carl. These are arguments I've brought up individually myself for years, and I think they have merit. Taken together, for me they paint a picture of a project that was attempted, faithfully executed on, but didn't end up delivering the benefi

Re: Proposal unify back our release schedules

2024-04-19 Thread Luigi Toscano
Nate Graham ha scritto: > I expect a vast amount of discussion to result from this proposal, and I think > that's great. It'll be good to talk about it. But I suspect in the end we'll > likely not achieve 100% consensus, and in that event I'd like for us to put it > to a formal KDE e.V. vote so th

Re: Proposal unify back our release schedules

2024-04-19 Thread Luigi Toscano
(apologize, resending, I've missed a CC) Carl Schwan ha scritto: > Hello Community, > > I know this might be a controversial idea, but I would like to propose reunify > our release schedules. I feel like splitting our releases schedules between > Frameworks, Plasma and Gear is not working as well

Re: Proposal unify back our release schedules

2024-04-19 Thread Carl Schwan
On Friday, April 19, 2024 2:03:45 PM GMT+2 Luigi Toscano wrote: > We also have and we will continue to have applications which are not on this > schedule, and thus KDE will continue to be unfit as a general brand for > them. The work to reduce the dependencies improved with the move to Qt 6 > (fo

Re: Proposal unify back our release schedules

2024-04-19 Thread Volker Krause
On Freitag, 19. April 2024 11:04:33 CEST Carl Schwan wrote: > * We currently don't have a stable branch for Framework and it takes often > up to one month for fixes to be deployed. The Framework releases is also > not in sync with either Gear nor Plasma while these two modules heavily > make use of

Re: Proposal unify back our release schedules

2024-04-19 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 11:35 AM Volker Krause wrote: > > On Freitag, 19. April 2024 11:04:33 CEST Carl Schwan wrote: > > * We currently don't have a stable branch for Framework and it takes often > > up to one month for fixes to be deployed. The Framework releases is also > > not in sync with eit

Re: Proposal unify back our release schedules

2024-04-19 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello, Unsurprisingly I'll be pretty much aligned with Luigi, Sune and Volker here I think. I'll try to add a couple of extra aspects to feed the thinking on this topic. On Friday 19 April 2024 11:04:33 CEST Carl Schwan wrote: > I know this might be a controversial idea, but I would like to pro

Re: Proposal unify back our release schedules

2024-04-19 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello, On Friday 19 April 2024 14:03:01 CEST Luigi Toscano wrote: > Nate Graham ha scritto: > > I expect a vast amount of discussion to result from this proposal, and I > > think that's great. It'll be good to talk about it. But I suspect in the > > end we'll likely not achieve 100% consensus, and

Re: Proposal unify back our release schedules

2024-04-19 Thread Kevin Ottens
Hello, Wished to react to a point in there. :-) On Friday 19 April 2024 17:33:02 CEST Volker Krause wrote: > On Freitag, 19. April 2024 11:04:33 CEST Carl Schwan wrote: > > * We currently don't have a stable branch for Framework and it takes often > > up to one month for fixes to be deployed. The

Re: Proposal unify back our release schedules

2024-04-19 Thread Ben Cooksley
On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 4:39 AM Kevin Ottens wrote: > Hello, > Hi all, > > Unsurprisingly I'll be pretty much aligned with Luigi, Sune and Volker > here I > think. I'll try to add a couple of extra aspects to feed the thinking on > this > topic. > On Friday 19 April 2024 11:04:33 CEST Carl S

Re: Proposal unify back our release schedules

2024-04-19 Thread Jakob Petsovits
Others have made convincing arguments for not tying the projects together from an engineering point of view, which I find easy to agree with. I also like the current monthly KF schedule in that it allows me to submit MRs early on in a Plasma development cycle and use them in Plasma shortly after