Re: Thoughts from a former KDE, currently Mozilla developer

2010-12-08 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Wednesday 8 December 2010 02:51:46 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On Tuesday, December 7, 2010, Benoit Jacob wrote: > > * > > 3. QA, Unit-testing, continuous testing (KDE: very little, Mozilla: a > > lot) > > > > Let's face it, KDE has always been deficient in the QA department. In > > > > order

Re: Thoughts from a former KDE, currently Mozilla developer

2010-12-08 Thread David Jarvie
On Wed, December 8, 2010 8:38 am, Kevin Ottens wrote: > On Wednesday 8 December 2010 02:51:46 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: >> On Tuesday, December 7, 2010, Benoit Jacob wrote: >> > * >> > 3. QA, Unit-testing, continuous testing (KDE: very little, Mozilla: a >> > lot) >> > >> > Let's face it, KDE has a

Re: Thoughts from a former KDE, currently Mozilla developer

2010-12-08 Thread Benoit Jacob
2010/12/7 Aaron J. Seigo : >> * >> 2. Can one tell volunteers contributors what they should be working >> on? (KDE: no, Mozilla: yes) > > a nice bit of philosophy. imho: > > should we communicate what is needed to be worked on? yes. > should we make it "cool" to work on what is needed by offeri

Re: Thoughts from a former KDE, currently Mozilla developer

2010-12-08 Thread Kevin Ottens
On Wednesday 8 December 2010 15:09:38 David Jarvie wrote: > On Wed, December 8, 2010 8:38 am, Kevin Ottens wrote: > > On Wednesday 8 December 2010 02:51:46 Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > >> On Tuesday, December 7, 2010, Benoit Jacob wrote: > >> > * > >> > 3. QA, Unit-testing, continuous testing (KDE:

Re: Thoughts from a former KDE, currently Mozilla developer

2010-12-08 Thread Benoit Jacob
2010/12/8 Kevin Ottens : >> For smaller commits, it seems reasonable to demand that they don't cause >> regressions. For larger commits, it won't always be possible to test >> sufficiently for regressions before committing - there may be too many >> affected apps if a change is made in the librarie

Re: Thoughts from a former KDE, currently Mozilla developer

2010-12-08 Thread Benoit Jacob
2010/12/7 Andreas Pakulat : > On 07.12.10 14:28:57, Benoit Jacob wrote: >> If I want to get a list of all KDE crashes that happened in libGL.so*, >> how do I go about that? > > Thats more a problem of the tool we're using to track bugs, there's no > way to tell bugzilla that something is a backtrac

Re: Thoughts from a former KDE, currently Mozilla developer

2010-12-08 Thread todd rme
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > On Tuesday, 7 de December de 2010 20:28:57 Benoit Jacob wrote: >> So do crash reports now automatically land in a database that's easy >> to do queries on? (See the web interface provided by Socorro) >> >> If I want to get a list of all KDE

Re: Thoughts from a former KDE, currently Mozilla developer

2010-12-08 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em Terça-feira, 7 de Dezembro de 2010, às 11:22:47, Benoit Jacob escreveu: > * > 1. Issue tracker (Mozilla) vs. Mailing lists (KDE). > > KDE uses a Mailing list for most its development discussion, and only > uses trackers (bugzilla, reviewboard) for specific tasks (user bug > reports, patch re

Re: Thoughts from a former KDE, currently Mozilla developer

2010-12-08 Thread Thiago Macieira
Em Quarta-feira, 8 de Dezembro de 2010, às 09:39:42, Benoit Jacob escreveu: > > Also, with > > enough debug symbols you won't be able to search for libGL anyway as > > the backtrace has references to source files only. > > How do you think that debuggers know the file? I think they just use > the m

Re: Thoughts from a former KDE, currently Mozilla developer

2010-12-08 Thread Aaron J. Seigo
On Wednesday, December 8, 2010, Thiago Macieira wrote: > One feature missing in Bugzilla is proper rich formatting, like a wiki. or threaded conversations. like a mailing list. :) -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE co

Re: Thoughts from a former KDE, currently Mozilla developer

2010-12-08 Thread Pablo Sanchez
[ Comments below, in line ] On Wednesday 08 December 2010 at 12:54 pm, Aaron J. Seigo penned about "Re: Thoughts from a former KDE, currently Mozilla developer" > On Wednesday, December 8, 2010, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > One feature missing in Bugzilla is proper rich formatting, like a wiki. >

Re: Thoughts from a former KDE, currently Mozilla developer

2010-12-08 Thread Gary Greene
On 8 Dec 2010, at 8:55 AM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > Em Terça-feira, 7 de Dezembro de 2010, às 11:22:47, Benoit Jacob escreveu: >> * >> 1. Issue tracker (Mozilla) vs. Mailing lists (KDE). >> >> KDE uses a Mailing list for most its development discussion, and only >> uses trackers (bugzilla, r