log work like tail --follow=name? That is, when
> the file gets renamed due to log rotation, does it show the new file? My
> plasmoid shows metalog's /var/log/everything/current, but once per day
> this file gets renamed and an empty one is created, which the plasmoid
> does not show the
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Dotan Cohen posted on Tue, 02 Nov 2010 12:26:18 +0200 as excerpted:
> Duncan, thank you! I have no doubt that you shall fell 19 Sardukar before
> your time is up!
=:^)
> Although the Oxygen style does let one configure the scrollbar to have a
> hover effect, the rest of the theme (
lpful to read), it would be without the -- , since startkde lists
clients, not servers, to start.
So if he's correct:
startx -- /usr/bin/startkde
If I'm correct:
startx /usr/bin/startkde
But as I said (and as you ACKed, so you at least saw it, but apparently
haven't had a chance
ould perhaps put the app off-screen (if you have a
1920x1080 monitor with top-left at 0,0, and the window rule forces it to
position top left at say 0, 1200...).
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t might
affect your display bug tho), direct rendering enabled, vsync disabled
(doesn't seem to matter, here, the option's apparently enabled somewhere
else I don't know about, maybe default for the Radeon driver in kms mode),
and the xrender smoothscaling option unchecked b
Alex Schuster posted on Sat, 13 Nov 2010 23:57:41 +0100 as excerpted:
> Duncan wrote:
>
>> Alex Schuster posted on Sun, 31 Oct 2010 20:51:12 +0100 as excerpted:
>
>>>> I still have dual monitors in stacked config, [total of] 1920x2160.
>> My current setup uses
phanisvara das posted on Sat, 13 Nov 2010 17:49:15 +0530 as excerpted:
> On Sat, 13 Nov 2010 05:48:28 +0530, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Of course, after
>> toggling the clock option to force the redraw, I immediately toggle it
>> again, to my prefe
dy seem to
have tried the most obvious stuff, user config (.kde4), and the details of
it working with amd64 but not x86 on the same repo are very intriguing.
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from the kernel command line, not just kde's desktop effects) or not.
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acceleration problems and thus switching from OpenGL accelerated xorg to
unaccelerated and back, but shouldn't be an issue as long as your
Thomas Olsen posted on Sat, 04 Dec 2010 15:56:40 +0100 as excerpted:
> On Saturday 04 December 2010 15:19:02 Duncan wrote:
>> wrongly aka system settings, wrongly, because
>
> You give a lot of very good replies here but it would make them much
> more easy to read if you wo
C had a bad component that worked fine when it was hot, but
terrible, otherwise. If I kept the room at 85F/30C plus, it worked just
fine! It was just this sort of issues that I'd see as it cooled down!
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by
building everything against a common reference and then not upgrading it
incompatibly, or upgrading everything else built against it when they do
(the reason you need to get packages for your specific binary distribution
version, a package for a different version or a different distribution
might
le, that's the problem. I've done that a number of
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d pain/pride of the realization that one is now
officially an "old fart" as a result of having those feelings, knowing
it's progress, but somehow wishing it didn't have to happen that way at
the same time. =:^(
OK, so that wandered "just a bit" OT... =:^)
>> If
r that hal is deprecated and kde is moving off of it, IIRC
with kde 4.6. It's thus reasonably likely that you'll need to modify your
workaround somewhat when you upgrade to that. However, it should be
easier to figure out what they've changed, having done it once already,
and it&#
they'd set
a rather strict security policy for it than for local-only apps. Rekonq
is possibly new enough that it doesn't have such a security policy set for
it, yet. But I've never gotten into SELinux or the like, so you'll have
to go elsewhere for help in any detail on it.
the memory of the early
kde4 recedes a bit further, as it's certainly so for me, but I'd certainly
be interested in such a list in theory now, and could find myself a
regular in practice, along about 4.7 or 4.8 beta time, provided 4.6 and
4.7 continue the trend of improvement we'
then check bugzilla for related bugs,
too.
As I said, I'm running 4.5.4 here too, on Gentoo, and haven't noticed the
issue, so it doesn't appear to be hitting everyone. Hopefully it's
something in your local user config and you can resolve it there.
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Jerome Yuzyk posted on Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:37:23 -0700 as excerpted:
> On Thursday, December 30, 2010 04:08:49 pm Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>> Jerome Yuzyk posted on Thu, 30 Dec 2010 14:11:37 -0700 as excerpted:
>> > Kde 3.5.3 on Fedora 13
>> >
&g
workstation, I don't use my netbook so much and it's running an
older kde4, with laptop-mode-tools installed and controlling all that,
configured via text file, not kde), so can't give you much help in terms
of where and what to configure to turn off its attempts to do that.
But th
be
what you're after, and of course the answer likely to remain valid going
forward may well apply only to the still pre-release kmail2.
Of course if you're flexible and will take an answer for any of them...
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its place) kglobalaccel's file accesses... I've used that method to find
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limited use here. But I'm guessing it could be used as
a plasma-desktop/plasma-netbook alternative, invoked on demand like you
would a screensaver (hotcorner/hotkey launched, etc).
(FWIW, I used bash tab-completion on plasm... to generate a listing of
commands, then investigated the ones t
settings, configure
profiles, edit profile, advanced tab, for kde 4.5 at least). You can set
the cursor to blink or not, and to block, I-beam or underline, as well as
setting the color. But it doesn't have a blink-rate setting there,
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on is the
traditional context menu, so that's what you'll probably want to assign to
the (unmodified) right button. AFAIK that's /supposed/ to be the default,
but with 4.5, there's a bug and the default only gets assigned to the
first one. You have to assign it to the other
Nikos Chantziaras posted on Sun, 23 Jan 2011 11:07:15 +0200 as excerpted:
> OK, found it: It seems it's only possible through the qtconfig utility
> (it should be installed by default when the Qt library is installed.)
> KDE doesn't provide a setting for this.
Thanks! =:^)
user" trial, too.
Hopefully the other one ends up similarly easy to fix. =:^/
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hat related here anyway, both because krandr only recently
started working correctly at all for many people with dual monitors, so
kde users /had/ to use xrandr or the like, and because it still doesn't
allow adding modes as you did above, so kde users /still/ have to use
xrandr or the like t
ou
use, or try toggling the hardware clock to the other time, UTC or local,
and changing the appropriate Linux timezone settings, and see if that
helps.
Or devise a workaround. Here, I might just setup a script, preferrably
hooked into the sync itself if possible, or called manually before/af
nately, that won't work for more than a single bindir's worth,
without finding and editing the config for that setting to include more
dirs, in which case you can point it to them directly and don't need the
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most folks know, so I wouldn't
recommend exploring the option unless you consider yourself quite
technically inclined. (IOW, people afraid of the command prompt or
hand-editing text-based config files are best forgetting this option
entirely, as it's clearly beyond their current and near-te
Dotan Cohen posted on Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:28:29 +0200 as excerpted:
> Thanks, Duncan. I'm not syncing, just transferring the files with the
> USB Mass Storage driver that the phone supports. I'll see what I can
> come up with, and like you said, at worst case I can write a scr
kde versions 4.5 and 4.6. The kdepim 4.5 and to-date 4.6
versions are officially beta, with 4.4.10 being the latest in the 4.4
series, the one you'd be expected to use with kde 4.6 in general, unless
you /want/ to try the beta kdepim. kdepim includes kmail, knode,
akregator, kontact, e
t stracing has a reasonable chance of getting you a result, and if not,
bisecting has a near 100% chance. Either way, you'll probably learn
enough in the process to make the next time you need to find such a config
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> Thanks, Duncan, I've certainly "bisected" ~/.kde enough times to know
> that the setting is most likely in ~/.kde/share/config. I've even
> narrowed it down to powerdevilprofilesrc I think. But I wa
ntoo/
gnome dev's blog for ~arch/testing. (Yes, I know gnome3 is out, but don't
have it installed nor will I, thus the still-speculative tone of the
above.)
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leaned. Perhaps the CPU heatsink
is clogged with dust, the CPU is throttling to prevent overheating, and
the timing just happened to line up with your kde 4.6 install. That's
certainly not unheard of. (Tech sites occasionally run features where
they post horror story photos of system
Torinthiel posted on Tue, 15 Feb 2011 00:51:42 +0100 as excerpted:
> phonon-vlc works for me without problems right now. Of course installing
> it triggered a whole lot new devices, but now everything seems to be
> working. Thanks for advice.
Thanks for the solution report. =:^)
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g to read them, or perhaps as part of the
logout process. (I HAVE done this sort of thing, before, actually
somewhat frequently, as because the technique simply runs a script, it's
as flexible as the commands I can run from a script. =:^)
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desktops I'm going to be experimenting with as described above, and I
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But meanwhile, back here on earth, I have rather more long work days than
I'd like to think about before I'll be able to afford those
it out if I actually took a
few hours to investigate; it has simply never gotten to be sufficiently
irritating to raise the priority high enough to get those few hours.
Maybe if I'm lucky, the above hints will be enough for you to do the
actual investigative work and I'll get th
implications. If that's the case, kmail is going so
internally HTML formatted that it's making up HTML code formatting even
for plain-text display where there isn't any, a trick I'd find more likely
from the likes of MS, and I'll be looking for a new mail client the
7;d have looked in the keyboard shortcuts options, not under hardware,
input-devs, keyboard. Now that I actually went and looked, tho, hopefully
I'll remember that it's counter-intuitively under hardware.
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Felix Miata posted on Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:55:36 -0500 as excerpted:
> On 2011/02/18 16:00 (GMT) Duncan composed:
>
>> I still miss the simple C-A-KB+/KB- resolution switching from before
>> RandR!
>
> Not everyone need miss this. It's one of the prices one pays for
Duncan posted on Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:30:54 + as excerpted:
> For those viewing in HTML... well... what can I say... except to
> strongly encourage them to change their viewing prefs to plain text.
> It's certainly safer, and would appear to solve the problem posed by the
>
fig files directly than many, and you may well get
a reply with more direct information than I have in any case. In case you
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So... if you're looking for a plasmoid (or other tool) to take focus and
allow keyboard interactive launching... use something other than
quicklaunch... and without active keyboard navigation implemented in
quicklaunch, "make-visible"
Dotan Cohen posted on Thu, 24 Feb 2011 02:08:07 +0200 as excerpted:
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 20:14, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>> Dotan Cohen posted on Wed, 23 Feb 2011 19:00:00 +0200 as excerpted:
>>
>>> I have the Quick Launch plasmoid in a p
the hoods welded shut, which is what closed source (or even
source available but without a license to change it) servantware amounts
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Dotan Cohen posted on Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:40:55 +0200 as excerpted:
> Thanks, Duncan. I know the difference between a radiobox and a checkbox!
=:^) Sometimes you never know, on the net. Better to be safe... and all
that. Plus someone else might come by who didn't know and sudde
16 of the
enlightenment window manager (WM), not some sort of virtual machine (VM).
So as I said above, one or the other (maybe both?) of us has an incorrect
understanding. If it's me, please do try to point out the error so it can
be corrected, as I tr
theory, but it matches the evidence available.
But as I said, you're not the first to report it, so you're not alone in
seeing the problem. Check earlier threads here and on the kde-linux list
(the two kde lists I subscribe to so where I'd have seen them), if you're
intereste
t get if you wait until it's
actually shipped as part of a release, where everything's reasonably well
tested together and should be close to the same age.
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Dotan Cohen posted on Thu, 03 Mar 2011 22:28:19 +0200 as excerpted:
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 06:37, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> Like you, I prefer to launch with a keyboard launcher.
>> I believe part of the issue may be that krunner checks more tha
shouldn't be having in the first place, and
didn't used to have.
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quirky (reminds me of the MS Windows 2 era), resulting in several
successive single-purpose popup windows instead of the more typical multi-
purpose dialog window, but it does get the job done, allowing you to
present a UI with which to select or type things in, if that's needed.
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kde posted on Sun, 06 Mar 2011 01:31:16 + as excerpted:
> On Saturday 05 March 2011 17:57:10 Duncan wrote:
>> Dotan Cohen posted on Sat, 05 Mar 2011 16:07:56 +0200 as excerpted:
>> > I have two separate cases where seniors using KDE like to open many
>> > instan
Duncan posted on Sat, 05 Mar 2011 17:57:10 + as excerpted:
> Dotan Cohen posted on Sat, 05 Mar 2011 16:07:56 +0200 as excerpted:
>
>> I have two separate cases where seniors using KDE like to open many
>> instances of the same application rather than use the already-open
&g
of 2010, with posts several
times a month thru January. There's no listed posts for February, but one
from Sunday (yesterday) on kde-4.6.1 (no replies, yet) and then this one,
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might be able to help, after all, if I ignored the request for a tutorial
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> notify kmail when there is a new incoming mail in /var/spool/mail.
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on, the 4.5 and
4.6 kdepim betas should be available. Of course, I'd recommend upgrading
to the latest kde 4.6.1, if you're going to do that, as 4.5.1 is after all
six months old now, and a lot of bugs will have been fixed in that time as
well as new features added for the kde 4.6 se
itions will allow you to test
other distributions for the issue, without disturbing your existing data
on the hard drive.
LiveEditions, customized for the purpose at hand, are an option the
proprietary folks don't generally have. It's nice to live in freedomware
land, where the limit
ual number of serious regressions.
Presumably your distribution will either get the 4.6.2 update itself or
get selected cherry-picked 4.6.2 updates as they believe useful. Either
way, 4.6.2 should be out in a week or so (I'm not tracking the specific
schedule), and it'll hopefully fix som
a window and raising it. As may be expected, after installing
the package, both the wmctrl (1) manpage and wmctrl --help at the command
line offer details on commandline usage and options.
What it sounds like you may be wanting, therefore, would be a call to kde-
open, likely followed by a call t
exity to
a manageable level once again, rather than generic catch-all solutions.
When the assumptions change, the hard-coded scripts can then change as
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se kaffeine, so
phonon will release its device locks, thus allowing kaffeine access to
them. (Obviously, I'd set kaffeine to run thru phonon if possible, as
arranging for only one audio app to access the sound hardware at once is a
hugely inconvenient hack... tho one many people have been forc
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simply to say yes, the post made it and is visible, so hopefully someone
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seen it happen, that
the system kde config is screwed up. Depending on where kde is placed on
the system, this will be in /usr/share/config or something similar
(/opt/share/config? /usr/local/share/config?). If it's a problem there,
it's likely due to a packaging or upgrade issue, tho
but instead
can have several folderviews, pointed at different directories, and/or can
mix other plasmoids in with the folderviews.
e) Do go take a look at the available plasmoids at kde-look.org. There's
a good chance you'll find at least one that'll become extremely useful to
hich I had to manually recreate from the flat directory structure that
kmail gave me when it lost the tree info. I think that's where kmail
stores read/important/etc status as well, so if you screwup and don't have
your backups in order, you may well have that to restore manually, a
value my freedom more than
the temporary convenience such software might be, so I wouldn't install it
even if those legal issues didn't exist. Since flash is well known for
both security and stability issues, my browsing sessions should be less
troublesome due to that, as well.
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>
> mc seems to be slowly self destructing too.
>
> I may yet have to re-install on a different drive. :-(
Given the indications, that may well be a good idea!
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That probably won't be a lot of help but hopefully it'll be a hint toward
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language that know
gene heskett posted on Fri, 08 Apr 2011 02:33:30 -0400 as excerpted:
> On Friday, April 08, 2011 02:08:02 AM Duncan did opine:
>
>> gene heskett posted on Thu, 07 Apr 2011 10:09:52 -0400 as excerpted:
>> > Wandering around in ~/.kde4, I found a bunch of what look like jun
gene heskett posted on Fri, 08 Apr 2011 06:50:36 -0400 as excerpted:
> On Friday, April 08, 2011 06:23:40 AM Duncan did opine:
>
> I will do that, and reboot in a few minutes. Because I have /var on its
> own partition, this always involves a tap of the reset button as the
> s
ry that may or may not also be
corrupted. You may wish to move them out of the way for testing, too, or
simply delete them, if you're not so heavily customized that recustomizing
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distribution has changed it to something else, either at compile time, or
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gene heskett posted on Sat, 09 Apr 2011 10:06:47 -0400 as excerpted:
> On Saturday, April 09, 2011 09:56:58 AM Duncan did opine:
>
>> gene heskett posted on Fri, 08 Apr 2011 22:57:21 -0400 as excerpted:
>> >> The specific problem file for me was
>> >>
gene heskett posted on Sat, 09 Apr 2011 14:04:24 -0400 as excerpted:
> On Saturday, April 09, 2011 01:44:30 PM Duncan did opine:
>
>> gene heskett posted on Sat, 09 Apr 2011 10:06:47 -0400 as excerpted:
>> > On Saturday, April 09, 2011 09:56:58 AM Duncan did opine:
>
&g
lem is that if you delete the wrong thing, you could trigger even
more duplicating...
Luckily, at least here, it was all invalid section deletions. I didn't
have to figure out individual invalid lines, or what would make them
valid. If it had gotten to that point I probably would have gi
gene heskett posted on Sun, 10 Apr 2011 10:03:32 -0400 as excerpted:
> On Sunday, April 10, 2011 08:45:58 AM Duncan did opine:
>
>> gene heskett posted on Sun, 10 Apr 2011 01:56:17 -0400 as excerpted:
>> If you're seeing actual code in that file (plasma-desktop-apple
advanced beginner if not intermediate, with knowing about pgrep for that
detection is probably intermediate, while advanced beginner level would
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Always succeeds.
So what that until block you have there does is:
"Execute a loop until an always successful null-command succeeds."
IOW, the loop is never run...
You effectively commented out your loop! =:^)
If it was a while instead of until, you'd have an endless loop,
wh
previously.
While I've certainly spent several hours replying in this thread,
by now, both the above have been true. I know more about both
pidof and pgrep as I've examined them based on your provocation,
and I've learned about inotify-tools, something I was entirely
unaware of before,
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