Re: [JPP-Devel] Commercial Support For OpenJUMP

2006-11-02 Thread Pedro Doria Meunier
Commercial OJ One thing is having the developers being paid for their work on some extended functionality to some company. Another is service around the product. But a *totally* different thing is, quoting the blog: "What type of "commercial support" will I offer?" I?!?!?! Did you,

Re: [JPP-Devel] [jump-users] RE: Commercial Support For OpenJUMP

2006-11-02 Thread David Zwiers
Pedro, This struck me in a similar manner ... so I did a little reading of the GPL, and I'm not sure SS's comments (as read this am on the blog site mentioned) do not violate Clause #2 of the GPL. Thanks for expressing what many of us are probably thinking. David -Original Message- Fro

Re: [JPP-Devel] [jump-users] RE: Commercial Support For OpenJUMP

2006-11-02 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
That was definitely not the response I was looking for. I was actually hoping for some positive feedback. Let me clarify some things for Pedro, then I'll respond to David's comment. Pedro wrote: "One thing is having the developers being paid for their work on some extended functionality to some c

Re: [JPP-Devel] [jump-users] RE: Commercial Support For OpenJUMP

2006-11-02 Thread Pedro Doria Meunier
" I realize that these are two different things, and I do intend to do both." Excellent! Please sign up at the appropriate page, which I profit the occasion to remind you of, http://openjump.org/wiki/show/Professional+Support, as a developer available for hire, like others did. I'm sure that inte

Re: [JPP-Devel] [jump-users] RE: Commercial Support For OpenJUMP

2006-11-02 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Hei Pedro, > I must be missing something here or I'm just too simple-minded but > GPL, clause 2, paragraph b) states: > " b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole > or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to > be licensed as a whole

Re: [JPP-Devel] [jump-users] RE: Commercial Support For OpenJUMP

2006-11-02 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
I should have saved this fun for a Friday afternoon. I'd only would have had to wait a single day. :] I'll respond to the comments in the order received. David wrote: "SS, intend for my message to be interpreted quite so strongly, only wanted to remind people about the licensing. Best of luck in

[JPP-Devel] Skiped one

2006-11-02 Thread Pedro Doria Meunier
OMG   I read the blog sideways and skipped this one:   “If the source code and documentation resulting from the performance of these development services is not released under an open source license, the rate will be double the normal rate.”   Does this mean that code and documentatio

[JPP-Devel] My last 2 cents

2006-11-02 Thread Pedro Doria Meunier
Not to waste anymore bandwidth:   SS: Please choose carefully your words regarding OJ.   Perhaps I’m the only user who had the guts to come forth… And look at the activity brought henceforth…   People *are* sensitive when they sense an attempt to control an OS project to commercial en

[JPP-Devel] Blog post clarifying commercial support...

2006-11-02 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Here you go: http://openjump.blogspot.com/ Let me know if there is still concern or questions. SS - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated techno

Re: [JPP-Devel] My last 2 cents

2006-11-02 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Thank you for the reminder Pedro. You are correct when you say that "People *are* sensitive when they sense an attempt to control an OS project to commercial endings". I will keep this in mind, and try to walk tenderly so I don't bruise anything. I appreciate you speaking up. That means you are i

[JPP-Devel] Funding For OpenJUMP

2006-11-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello Pedro, Tomorrow, an entity can pay you to develop further OpenJUMP. You have the right to do it, so I don't see why Sunburned could not have this right. Of course, the GPL license must be respected, and this must be totally clear for customers who ask for Sunburned's (or other's) services