Re: [JPP-Devel] Sample Context-Sensitive Help

2007-10-18 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Thanks for the suggestion Eric. I will give APT a look. The Sunburned Surveyor On 10/18/07, Eric Lemesre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > HTML and PDF are two format with her respective particularity. > Personnaly I preffer print a PDF, but on my linuxbox i preffer html. > In my PDA i like us

Re: [JPP-Devel] Sample Context-Sensitive Help

2007-10-18 Thread Eric Lemesre
Hi, HTML and PDF are two format with her respective particularity. Personnaly I preffer print a PDF, but on my linuxbox i preffer html. In my PDA i like use plucker (and html source) for build ebook. Some body on Windows platform like CHM (simply html with script). I think APT "Almost Plain Text

Re: [JPP-Devel] Sample Context-Sensitive Help

2007-10-17 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Larry, I'm sorry if I offended you. That was not my intention. I you, Paul, and I were having a healthy discussion. I'm really trying to work together with the other programmers. That is why I posted the PDF for others to comment on to begin with. I'm certainly not suggesting that is what other p

Re: [JPP-Devel] Sample Context-Sensitive Help

2007-10-17 Thread Larry Becker
> I'm open for suggestions. Obviously, you're not. In fact you're become a bit of a troll. Personally, I'm not going to wast any more collective bandwidth on this issue. The little bit of information in your PDF file would be better served as a tooltip for each button. Larry On 10/17/07, Sunbu

Re: [JPP-Devel] Sample Context-Sensitive Help

2007-10-17 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Paul, Your points are well taken. I took a pretty close look at JavaHelp. If you are a fan of HTML help it is the way to go. I decided against using Java help because I wanted a way to cleanly separate text from images. If I was to use a help documentation system that didn't use PDF, I would crea

Re: [JPP-Devel] Sample Context-Sensitive Help

2007-10-17 Thread Paul Austin
Landon, On the P.S.S. Documentation that is larger because of quality descriptions and illustrations is a good think. Larger because of file format size is not so good. Another thing is responsiveness, on my Linux box it takes forever to launch a PDF viewer, an embedded swing HTML viewer however

Re: [JPP-Devel] Sample Context-Sensitive Help

2007-10-17 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Paul brings up a good point. The only thing I don't like about HTML is that your options for controlling layout are limited. I think it also presents some challeneges in the separation of text and images, which I think is important for translation. Printing HTML docs can be tricky too. I've done

Re: [JPP-Devel] Sample Context-Sensitive Help

2007-10-17 Thread Paul Austin
And if you need to have some pretty formatting or images use HTML. On another perspective on the issue. HTML is a fairly low overhead way to encode text. PDF files on the other hand have a lot of overhead. If we look at this one page PDF it takes up 164KB where as a HTML document with image would

Re: [JPP-Devel] Sample Context-Sensitive Help

2007-10-17 Thread Larry Becker
PDF is just a non-standard way to do help. All you have is some text. You should just pop up a window with a text component and display it. Don't make me open another (non-free) application to view your help. Larry On 10/17/07, Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ha! It is never g

Re: [JPP-Devel] Sample Context-Sensitive Help

2007-10-17 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Ha! It is never good when the only reply comes from someone who doesn't like the work. :] Did you have a problem with the font/colors/layout, or do you dislike it because it is a PDF? Thanks for the clarification. The Sunburned Surveyor On 10/17/07, Larry Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I d

Re: [JPP-Devel] Sample Context-Sensitive Help

2007-10-17 Thread Larry Becker
I don't like it at all, but you probably knew that already. :-) Larry On 10/17/07, Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have attached a sample of the help documentation I will prepare for > the Super Select Tool in PDF. The PDF will be opened when the user > clicks on the help button