Re: [JPP-Devel] Alternative to a complex feature model...

2007-06-08 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Martin, I'm afraid you are on a higher level than I am in this discussion, and I may not completely understand all of the points you brought out in your e-mail. I am afraid this limitation of mine may be due to the fact that I never had any proper education in software design or architecture. My a

Re: [JPP-Devel] Alternative to a complex feature model...

2007-06-08 Thread Martin Davis
Yes, I agree 100%. It's fine to look at adding functionality for complex feature types, but this should not complicate the use of the current simple feature model! Rahkonen Jukka wrote: > Hi, > > As a user, I really hope you can keep the software as simple to use as it is > nowadays even if

Re: [JPP-Devel] Alternative to a complex feature model...

2007-06-08 Thread Rahkonen Jukka
Hi, As a user, I really hope you can keep the software as simple to use as it is nowadays even if the feature model goes complex... -Jukka Rahkonen- Lähettäjä: [EMAIL PROTECTED] puolesta: Markus Müller Lähetetty: pe 8.6.2007 19:04 Vastaanottaja: List for disc

Re: [JPP-Devel] Alternative to a complex feature model...

2007-06-08 Thread Markus Müller
Hi Landon, Martin, (as so often) I agree with most points made by Martin. Perhaps a use case that I have in mind for a while is of interest here. In Germany (sorry...) there is a group of people who developed an object model for urban planning called "XPlanGML" (for those able to understand G

Re: [JPP-Devel] Alternative to a complex feature model...

2007-06-08 Thread Martin Davis
SS, Good blog post. It seems to me that you are recapitulating the object-vs-relational debate that was raging strongly in the DB world in the late 90's. It seems like the RDB's have won that round (at least for the time being) on the server side, but the object world is obviously in the asc

Re: [JPP-Devel] About Openjump SaveImageasSVG

2007-06-08 Thread Stefan Steiniger
I never tried the wkt fill pattern, I welcome if you want to add your improvements to the plugin :) stefan Sascha L. Teichmann schrieb: > Stefan, > > If you like I can apply some of the Print/Layout > improvements to SaveImageAsSVGPlugIn. > > Rounded/truncated are one problem. > Have you ever

Re: [JPP-Devel] Progress on OpenJUMP CVS Unstable Branch

2007-06-08 Thread Sunburned Surveyor
Let's wait to see what Larry Becker has to say about this. If he has no strong objections I can set up the Subversion repository on the JPP SourceForge site, as Stefan sounds like he is still busy with his thesis. We can then use this Subversion repository for development of OpenJUMP. At some poin

Re: [JPP-Devel] About Openjump SaveImageasSVG

2007-06-08 Thread Sascha L. Teichmann
Stefan, If you like I can apply some of the Print/Layout improvements to SaveImageAsSVGPlugIn. Rounded/truncated are one problem. Have you ever tried to save a SVG via SaveImageAsSVGPlugIn with (WKT) fill patterns on the map enabled? By now the fill patterns get lost or are replaced by a simple f

Re: [JPP-Devel] About Openjump SaveImageasSVG

2007-06-08 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Hei Sascha it is just one file and very very simple code (compared to your plugin): org.openjump.core.ui.plugin.file.SaveImageAsSVGPlugIn i did not even make it by myself.. i just merged some stuff by two different people stefan Sascha L. Teichmann schrieb: > Hi Guiseppe! > > Which version o

Re: [JPP-Devel] About Openjump SaveImageasSVG (and a question) - Giuseppe Aruta

2007-06-08 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Hei, thats a good question. But i guess the problem of WMF is, that it is a closed format (microsoft windows only). I also believe that it can contain raster as well as vector graphics and may be other media too. The size difference is probably due to the binary stoarge format. SVG is stored

Re: [JPP-Devel] About Openjump SaveImageasSVG (and a question) - Giuseppe Aruta

2007-06-08 Thread Giuseppe Aruta
Thanks Stephan, I think I solve the problem using Inkscape to draw again the symbols I mìssed, I will try the Cadplan Printlayout plugin and see what happens. I have a question, northing connected to Openjump develop, but a curisity. In some drawing software, exporting to WMF/EMF gives good vecto

[JPP-Devel] Writing Openjump help (Giuseppe Aruta)

2007-06-08 Thread Giuseppe Aruta
Sunburned Surveyor, I forgot on the other mail to ask you if you are working on all the Tools Menu Functions or only on the new (Tools) ones greetings Giuseppe Aruta ___ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yaho

[JPP-Devel] Writing Openjump Help

2007-06-08 Thread Giuseppe Aruta
Sunburned Surveyor, I think I write the other functions of Openjump Help directly with Scibus. I need a sample file from you so I can directly organize my work on it. This probabily could simplify and speed up all the job thanks Giuseppe Aruta ___ L'email

[JPP-Devel] R: Alternative to a complex feature model...

2007-06-08 Thread P . Rizzi Ag . Mobilità Ambiente
I like that post and I agree with you!!! A GIS is nothing more than a database in the end, something that OGC seems to forget sometime... Bye Paolo Rizzi Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] per conto di Sunburned Surveyor Inviato: gio 07/06/2007 21.07 A: OpenJUMP Dev Oggetto:

Re: [JPP-Devel] Progress on OpenJUMP CVS Unstable Branch

2007-06-08 Thread Andreas Schmitz
Sunburned Surveyor wrote: Hello, first of all let me introduce myself. I'm Andreas Schmitz and I'm taking over some of Ugo's projects here at lat/lon, especially the ones regarding deeJUMP/OpenJUMP. So chances are, that you'll see some more of me on this list :) > Alright. We've got three votes

Re: [JPP-Devel] About Openjump SaveImageasSVG

2007-06-08 Thread Sascha L. Teichmann
Hi Guiseppe! Which version of OpenJUMP do you use? 1.2b? We've integrated a tweak to OpenJUMP (Viewport.setJava2DConverter()) a while ago to make it possible to have accurate vertices. The Print/Layout plug-in uses this mechanism and so the problem should _not_ appear if you use it with OpenJUMP

Re: [JPP-Devel] Progress on OpenJUMP CVS Unstable Branch

2007-06-08 Thread Stefan Steiniger
puh.. thats a tricky thing. ;o) As Michael points out.. i currently don't have the time for doing a switch within the next 3-4 weeks (afterwards i hope i have submitted my thesis and get more time on OJ) but for now i think the idea to setup svn for test may be good, because i have discoverd the p

Re: [JPP-Devel] About Openjump SaveImageasSVG

2007-06-08 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Hei Guiseppe, the problem comes from the screen resolution. The points/objects are distorted to enable a faster rendering. For the things you want, one needs a specific (new) export tool that does not depend on the screen resolution. furthermore there is another limit in the tool which is prob