Re: [Ecosystem-engineering] The future of Charm Helpers

2015-11-22 Thread Billy Olsen
I'm very much in favor of breaking up charm helpers as well. I think it ultimately acknowledges how charm developers have chosen to use the library (even if not quite correct), but also allows for a theoretically more organized core library. A few thoughts come up as I read this... First, the hook

Re: [Ecosystem-engineering] The future of Charm Helpers

2015-11-22 Thread Adam Israel
I am very much in favor of this move forward. I’ve recently worked on converting the charm-benchmark package to charms.benchmark; I see where having cleaner namespaces make will make every charm author’s life easier. That said, I know that transitioning to this new model is an epic undertaking,

Re: The future of Charm Helpers

2015-11-22 Thread Marco Ceppi
Hello everyone, I'm rebooting this conversation because it never fully came to a resolution and since this topic was discussed a lot has happened in the Charm Ecosystem. I still hold firm, and a lot of charmers I've spoken with agree, that charm helpers has become the opposite which it originally

Re: juju deploy failure on nova

2015-11-22 Thread Billy Olsen
Hi Cathy, These messages are used to indicate why the service is not a fully functional service.. As you point out, the software packages for the base charm service has been installed at this point in time, but needs additional relations in order to make the service a fully functioning service. Th